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Yes...?

Do go on. In your own time. I'm sure you have a point to get to.
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The dice are apparently white, but no longer have black pips as all other dice, and instead has faces of multi-colors, so the game must now be racist and full of cultural appropriation.

Furthermore the box failed to mention that no Dolphins were injured or killed during the creation of the product, so peta will be momentarily posting another nude picture of a girl laying inside of an istanbul box in saran wrap to protest all the killed dolphins from harvesting cardboard out of the ocean.
 
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I've been waiting on the dice game for "Constantinople." And idea where I should look for it?
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GameCrossing wrote:
I've been waiting on the dice game for "Constantinople." And idea where I should look for it?

Istanbul was Constantinople
Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Oh Constantinople
Now it's Turkish delight on a moonlit night

Every gal in Constantinople
Lives in Istanbul, not Constantinople
So if you've a date in Constantinople
She'll be waiting in Istanbul

Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
Why they changed it I can't say
People just liked it better that way

So, Take me back to Constantinople
No, you can't go back to Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Oh Constantinople
Why did Constantinople get the works?
That's nobody's business but the Turks

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sao123 wrote:
The dice are apparently white, but no longer have black pips as all other dice, and instead has faces of multi-colors, so the game must now be racist and full of cultural appropriation.

Furthermore the box failed to mention that no Dolphins were injured or killed during the creation of the product, so peta will be momentarily posting another nude picture of a girl laying inside of an istanbul box in saran wrap to protest all the killed dolphins from harvesting cardboard out of the ocean.

Am I missing something, or is the above as off-the-wall as it looks?
 
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bowen wrote:
sao123 wrote:
The dice are apparently white, but no longer have black pips as all other dice, and instead has faces of multi-colors, so the game must now be racist and full of cultural appropriation.

Furthermore the box failed to mention that no Dolphins were injured or killed during the creation of the product, so peta will be momentarily posting another nude picture of a girl laying inside of an istanbul box in saran wrap to protest all the killed dolphins from harvesting cardboard out of the ocean.

Am I missing something, or is the above as off-the-wall as it looks?



sarcasm
noun sar·casm \ ˈsär-ˌka-zəm \
1 : a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain
2 a : a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual
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bowen wrote:
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I've been waiting on the dice game for "Constantinople." And idea where I should look for it?

Istanbul was Constantinople


I lived in Turkey for several years after I was a TMBG fan. When I finally got to see TMBG in person I screamed for ages at the opening three notes of this song. Someone caught it and put it on YouTube. laugh
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Oh just pointing out that they are almost certainly slaves. That's all.
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Yes...?

Do go on. In your own time. I'm sure you have a point to get to.
 
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sao123 wrote:
bowen wrote:
sao123 wrote:
The dice are apparently white, but no longer have black pips as all other dice, and instead has faces of multi-colors, so the game must now be racist and full of cultural appropriation.

Furthermore the box failed to mention that no Dolphins were injured or killed during the creation of the product, so peta will be momentarily posting another nude picture of a girl laying inside of an istanbul box in saran wrap to protest all the killed dolphins from harvesting cardboard out of the ocean.

Am I missing something, or is the above as off-the-wall as it looks?



sarcasm
noun sar·casm \ ˈsär-ˌka-zəm \
1 : a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain
2 a : a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual
b : the use or language of sarcasm

Considering the fact that there is still no context given, not sarcasm, simply as off-the-wall as it looks.
 
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sao123 wrote:
The dice are apparently white, but no longer have black pips as all other dice, and instead has faces of multi-colors, so the game must now be racist and full of cultural appropriation.

Furthermore the box failed to mention that no Dolphins were injured or killed during the creation of the product, so peta will be momentarily posting another nude picture of a girl laying inside of an istanbul box in saran wrap to protest all the killed dolphins from harvesting cardboard out of the ocean.

I'm not saying people should boycott the game or anything. I just think it's a weird double standard that some people get so upset over slaves and missionaries in games set in the Western Hemisphere, but no mention that I can see of the gigantic slave market in Istanbul.
 
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I'm not saying people should boycott the game or anything. I just think it's a weird double standard that some people get so upset over slaves and missionaries in games set in the Western Hemisphere, but no mention that I can see of the gigantic slave market in Istanbul.


It's mainly Americans who are very sensitive when it comes to the topic of slavery which is understandable given U.S. history.

For the rest of the world, it's not as big a deal. Every game set in ancient Rome or ancient Egypt has thousands of slaves in the background. Every time you build a pyramid in a game, there are people toiling and dying. You just don't see them.

Besides that, I don't see your point. The dice are assistants, not slaves. There's a goods market, but there's no slave market.
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mag74b wrote:
sao123 wrote:
bowen wrote:
sao123 wrote:
The dice are apparently white, but no longer have black pips as all other dice, and instead has faces of multi-colors, so the game must now be racist and full of cultural appropriation.

Furthermore the box failed to mention that no Dolphins were injured or killed during the creation of the product, so peta will be momentarily posting another nude picture of a girl laying inside of an istanbul box in saran wrap to protest all the killed dolphins from harvesting cardboard out of the ocean.

Am I missing something, or is the above as off-the-wall as it looks?



sarcasm
noun sar·casm \ ˈsär-ˌka-zəm \
1 : a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain
2 a : a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual
b : the use or language of sarcasm

Considering the fact that there is still no context given, not sarcasm, simply as off-the-wall as it looks.


There was no context needed... the first post was so void of content, it might as well had just said:
Quote:
Dont plug the toaster into the banana!


Obviously the fact that it was posted in RSP, meant there was virtualy something which someone could be offended by...

Yes it was off the wall sillyness... it was meant to be in the absence of a real issue in the OP.
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dahelmang wrote:

sao123 wrote:
The dice are apparently white, but no longer have black pips as all other dice, and instead has faces of multi-colors, so the game must now be racist and full of cultural appropriation.

Furthermore the box failed to mention that no Dolphins were injured or killed during the creation of the product, so peta will be momentarily posting another nude picture of a girl laying inside of an istanbul box in saran wrap to protest all the killed dolphins from harvesting cardboard out of the ocean.

I'm not saying people should boycott the game or anything. I just think it's a weird double standard that some people get so upset over slaves and missionaries in games set in the Western Hemisphere, but no mention that I can see of the gigantic slave market in Istanbul.



i dont see the double standard...I think being offended is good for people... its a defense mechanism that needs to be exercised.

People should be forced to be offended routinely, and left to be offended until they are immune to it, then it takes more and more to be offended each time.

its like your immune system, if you never get any germs your immune system basically weakens and dies, then when a major disease hits you cant fight it off. People who routinely get exposed to germs have the strongest immune system and thus are the healthiest.


I have been offended so much, that now im used to it. I built up a complete tolerance and complete apathy.

The only thing that offends me now is other people feeling offended.
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sao123 wrote:
I have been offended so much, that now im used to it. I built up a complete tolerance and complete apathy.

The only thing that offends me now is other people feeling offended.


Interesting point.

It's basically the Trumpian technique of overflowing the offend channel. He did so much that people should be offended by that now I don't get triggered at all anymore. It's just Trump being Trump. You literally can't stay in a state of constant offense without suffering some kind of health issue.

Another interesting player in our time are social media. Tiny events that trigger the right people at the right time can blow up to a complete storm that rivals other news stories of nationwide interest. So it becomes harder to intuitively judge the weight of the problem by the noise it creates.
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sao123 wrote:
I think being offended is good for people... its a defense mechanism that needs to be exercised.

. . .

The only thing that offends me now is other people feeling offended.


But if. . .
then. . .
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darnheather wrote:
bowen wrote:
GameCrossing wrote:
I've been waiting on the dice game for "Constantinople." And idea where I should look for it?

Istanbul was Constantinople


I lived in Turkey for several years after I was a TMBG fan. When I finally got to see TMBG in person I screamed for ages at the opening three notes of this song. Someone caught it and put it on YouTube. laugh

We went on our honeymoon to Istanbul (and the rest of Turkey)
So its a sort of wedding song for us.
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GameCrossing wrote:
I've been waiting on the dice game for "Constantinople." Any idea where I should look for it?

Ironically Istanbul is from the Greek as well. "To the city" in vernacular medieval Greek. Which is what the Turks would have picked up.
 
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emptyset wrote:
dahelmang wrote:
I'm not saying people should boycott the game or anything. I just think it's a weird double standard that some people get so upset over slaves and missionaries in games set in the Western Hemisphere, but no mention that I can see of the gigantic slave market in Istanbul.


It's mainly Americans who are very sensitive when it comes to the topic of slavery which is understandale given U.S. history.

For the rest of the world, it's not as big a deal. Every game set in ancient Rome or ancient Egypt has thousands of slaves in the background. Every time you build a pyramid in a game, there are people toiling and dying. You just don't see them.

Besides that, I don't see your point. The dice are assistants, not slaves. There's a goods market, but there's no slave market.

The pyramids (and all other state works) were built by the peasants who had to work on these projects (corvee labour). They were fed quite well according to the records we have whilst doing so.
They appear to have had a lot more freedom than slaves. There was a class of slaves as well, who usually lived in rich peoples houses and were often materially better off than the peasants. Freedom is a tricky subject when everybody serves a god-king!
Ancient Egyptian sites are littered with pottery for beer and grain rations so we have archaeological evidence of organised supply on a huge scale. There were so many still intact that one Roman era glassworks used them as melting pots.
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dahelmang wrote:
Oh just pointing out that they are almost certainly slaves. That's all.

Complex issue. Islamic slavery is descended from Classical slavery. Slaves and freedman have a range of very different roles.
See the Imperial civil service under the Juli0-Claudians and Flavians.
It could be much much better being a slave with specialist knowledge than a peasant. Eventually the workers on the biggest estates are slaves and they have a terrible life.
Since the free in practice had a lot fewer of the concepts we associate with freedom quite often the lines are more blurred.
US slavery based on race is quite different in lots of ways. Captured Union white soldiers weren't enslaved and the idea would shock. Romans wouldn't turn a hair. (At least for the working class.)
 
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sao123 wrote:
dahelmang wrote:

sao123 wrote:
The dice are apparently white, but no longer have black pips as all other dice, and instead has faces of multi-colors, so the game must now be racist and full of cultural appropriation.

Furthermore the box failed to mention that no Dolphins were injured or killed during the creation of the product, so peta will be momentarily posting another nude picture of a girl laying inside of an istanbul box in saran wrap to protest all the killed dolphins from harvesting cardboard out of the ocean.

I'm not saying people should boycott the game or anything. I just think it's a weird double standard that some people get so upset over slaves and missionaries in games set in the Western Hemisphere, but no mention that I can see of the gigantic slave market in Istanbul.



i dont see the double standard...I think being offended is good for people... its a defense mechanism that needs to be exercised.

People should be forced to be offended routinely, and left to be offended until they are immune to it, then it takes more and more to be offended each time.

its like your immune system, if you never get any germs your immune system basically weakens and dies, then when a major disease hits you cant fight it off. People who routinely get exposed to germs have the strongest immune system and thus are the healthiest.


I have been offended so much, that now im used to it. I built up a complete tolerance and complete apathy.

The only thing that offends me now is other people feeling offended.

Now I understand why you are so obnoxious.
When things stop offending you then you are losing your humanity.
But your bluster belies the fact that you are clearly easily offended.
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emptyset wrote:
It's mainly Americans who are very sensitive when it comes to the topic of slavery which is understandale given U.S. history.

For the rest of the world, it's not as big a deal.

A large part of the African subcontinent would disagree with that, methinks.
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emptyset wrote:
dahelmang wrote:
I'm not saying people should boycott the game or anything. I just think it's a weird double standard that some people get so upset over slaves and missionaries in games set in the Western Hemisphere, but no mention that I can see of the gigantic slave market in Istanbul.


It's mainly Americans who are very sensitive when it comes to the topic of slavery which is understandale given U.S. history.


If you say "slave" to me, I think about slaves in the Roman empire. It's closer to me culturally.

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emptyset wrote:
It's mainly Americans who are very sensitive when it comes to the topic of slavery which is understandale given U.S. history.

For the rest of the world, it's not as big a deal.

A large part of the African subcontinent would disagree with that, methinks.


Aren't they more focused on the colonization/decolonization ?
 
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DavidDearlove wrote:
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The only thing that offends me now is other people feeling offended.

Now I understand why you are so obnoxious.
When things stop offending you then you are losing your humanity.
But your bluster belies the fact that you are clearly easily offended.

Naturally, because getting offended by other people feeling offended is a much more frequent occasion than those people getting offended on a per person basis.

Example:
100 people each react offended to a different event with a 1% likelihood of occurring.
Scott observes those 100 people and gets offended when one of them is feeling offended.
Scott is 100 times more easily offended that any one of those people.
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dahelmang wrote:

sao123 wrote:
The dice are apparently white, but no longer have black pips as all other dice, and instead has faces of multi-colors, so the game must now be racist and full of cultural appropriation.

Furthermore the box failed to mention that no Dolphins were injured or killed during the creation of the product, so peta will be momentarily posting another nude picture of a girl laying inside of an istanbul box in saran wrap to protest all the killed dolphins from harvesting cardboard out of the ocean.

I'm not saying people should boycott the game or anything. I just think it's a weird double standard that some people get so upset over slaves and missionaries in games set in the Western Hemisphere, but no mention that I can see of the gigantic slave market in Istanbul.


Man what? Do you even Five Tribes?
 
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