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Kelsey Rinella
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I took my kids to a water park this weekend, and at one point we were in line for kind of a while next to a man who had a tattoo of a naked woman splayed atop another naked woman, who was herself atop a man seen only because his penis rose between the thighs of both women and was being caressed by the top woman. I’m pretty sex-positive and supportive of liberty, and I figured he knew what was on his back, so I didn’t see much benefit to raising the issue with him. But, were I to have such a tattoo, I’d wear a swim shirt, and briefly considered offering him mine.

My question to you all is: is any intervention appropriate, and, if so, who should take it? Given that I was not personally offended, largely because it was a sufficiently amateurish bit of art among many other tattoos that it was easy to miss, do I have a duty to prevent the display of pornography to children? I eventually came down on the side of leaving objections to those who objected, so as not to restrict freedom any more than absolutely necessary. But I’m not confident that was the right call.
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do I have a duty to prevent the display of pornography to children?


No. That was easy.
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I would’ve left him alone like you,, Idk I guess I would’ve tried to distract my kids from it (but it wouldn’t have been the end of the world if I couldn’t)... freedom is freedom
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I think this is pretty firmly in the realm of things that you can reasonably think are inappropriate, rude, obnoxious, etc., but that a) you have no real basis to insist that he stop, and b) trying to is likely to cause more problems than it solves.

If you did want to have him put on a shirt, I think you'd be better off discussing it with a manager. He or she could then insist that the tattoo be covered (assuming they have some sort of policy) or would tell you that unfortunately this wasn't something they would do anything about.
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How large was the tattoo? I am surprised no one else or employee didn't call him out. I would think most waterparks have a policy similar to:

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Clothing and tattoos must not depict or display any lewd, offensive, or vulgar pictures and/or language. Turning clothing inside out to conceal these offenses is not permissible. Park Management retains the right to determine if a guest’s clothing and/or tattoo is deemed to have a negative impact on another guest’s family-fun experience at <redacted> Waterpark, and these standards are enforced at the Park Management's discretion.
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He wasn't trying to breast feed anything though, right? Then hopefully someone would have said something.

I probably would have pointed it out to my wife who would sick management on him. She's not afraid to go after idiots like that in public places. She got called the 'sock nazi' at a local bouncy house emporium recently when she made sure the little ruffians followed the rules to keep socks on their potentially nasty feet.
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lfisher wrote:
How large was the tattoo? I am surprised no one else or employee didn't call him out. I would think most waterparks have a policy similar to:

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Clothing and tattoos must not depict or display any lewd, offensive, or vulgar pictures and/or language. Turning clothing inside out to conceal these offenses is not permissible. Park Management retains the right to determine if a guest’s clothing and/or tattoo is deemed to have a negative impact on another guest’s family-fun experience at <redacted> Waterpark, and these standards are enforced at the Park Management's discretion.


I’d be shocked if they didn’t have a vague catchall in their policies about how they can eject guests for ruining the experience of other guests. I also assume that displaying the same image on the wall would be illegal.

The tattoo was perhaps six or eight inches in diameter, but was a monochrome line drawing on a back with several other large, more eye-catching tattoos, so I’m not too surprised the question hadn’t been raised. I only noticed it because he was in front of me in line for ten minutes.

Part of my problem is that I would so emphatically never choose to get an obviously pornographic tattoo that I don’t have much insight into his mindset. If I had such a tattoo, I feel like I’d only ever go to a water park attended primarily by children in a shirt that covered it, so, if I weren’t in such a shirt, it would have been a mortifying oversight and I’d have been immensely grateful for the offer of one. But that’s me. The sort of person who wanted that tattoo might feel oppressed by such an offer.
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I would’ve left him alone like you,, Idk I guess I would’ve tried to distract my kids from it (but it wouldn’t have been the end of the world if I couldn’t)... freedom is freedom

I'm not saying that you shouldn't try distraction but in my experience (as a child and a parent) children can be pretty good at noticing when that is going on (sort of a Streisand effect, I guess).
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Hardly seems worth kicking up a fuss over - the kids have either seen it before or wouldnt recongise it.
 
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abercrab wrote:
I probably would have pointed it out to my wife who would sick management on him.


I'm going to mention an error, but only so I can write "who would sic (sic) the management on him". (That's two quite different sics. It's not quite a perfect use of the second one, but close enough.)
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Dearlove wrote:
abercrab wrote:
I probably would have pointed it out to my wife who would sick management on him.


I'm going to mention an error, but only so I can write "who would sic (sic) the management on him". (That's two quite different sics. It's not quite a perfect use of the second one, but close enough.)

That is incorrect: you have "sic" (the first) in quotes, implying that the original writer wrote "sic" when they wrote "sick" (which admittedly is also incorrect); thus, you are misquoting. The correct version would be "who would sick [sic] the management on him".
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Man, I wouldn't want to be that guy in 50 years or so.

I wouldn't have said anything to him and I don't think you're under an duty at all to do so.
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growlley wrote:
Hardly seems worth kicking up a fuss over - the kids have either seen it before or wouldnt recongise it.


A) It’s not rocket science. These are obviously human forms without clothes. If you’re saying kids might not have full context for the significance of the act depicted for the people involved, okay. But it was pretty obvious that three naked people were displaying and touching the parts of their bodies we tell kids they have to cover in public.

B) You edited “recongise” twice?
 
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David N wrote:
Dearlove wrote:
abercrab wrote:
I probably would have pointed it out to my wife who would sick management on him.


I'm going to mention an error, but only so I can write "who would sic (sic) the management on him". (That's two quite different sics. It's not quite a perfect use of the second one, but close enough.)

That is incorrect: you have "sic" (the first) in quotes, implying that the original writer wrote "sic" when they wrote "sick" (which admittedly is also incorrect); thus, you are misquoting. The correct version would be "who would sick [sic] the management on him".


I stand by my use of 'sick' because that's what they're going to be doing all over that guy when my wife is done with them.
 
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Chad_Ellis wrote:
If you did want to have him put on a shirt, I think you'd be better off discussing it with a manager.


This. Were I at a park with young kids, I'm pretty sure I would have told a ride operator or asked to speak to a supervisor and let them know.

But it's not my park and I have no authority to do anything about much of anything, so I'd let the park known and they could do what they pleased.
 
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Was the quality of the tattoo good, bad, or so bad that it was great? I’d behave accordingly.
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abercrab wrote:
David N wrote:
Dearlove wrote:
abercrab wrote:
I probably would have pointed it out to my wife who would sick management on him.


I'm going to mention an error, but only so I can write "who would sic (sic) the management on him". (That's two quite different sics. It's not quite a perfect use of the second one, but close enough.)

That is incorrect: you have "sic" (the first) in quotes, implying that the original writer wrote "sic" when they wrote "sick" (which admittedly is also incorrect); thus, you are misquoting. The correct version would be "who would sick [sic] the management on him".


I stand by my use of 'sick' because that's what they're going to be doing all over that guy when my wife is done with them.

If it's not obvious, it wasn't you I was criticising.
 
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Put me down in the "just ignore it" camp. What would be the most likely outcome of an "intervention"...you getting into a fight with a stranger in front of your kids, which I'd argue is going to leave a much greater negative impression on them then a blurry pic on some stranger's skin...which you additionally would be calling more attention to.

If they saw it and it was obvious they were freaked out by it--just move somewhere else away from the classless idiot. Anyone willing to wear such a tattoo in public is going to have an "interesting" reaction to you asking him to put a swim shirt on, guaranteed And it's not yours or anyone else's job to be the morality police. Tell the park, if they won't do anything then so be it--you can tell them that they've lost your business, you'll be writing headquarters (send 'em a pic of it!) whatever. You just don't want to get into a fistfight in front of your kids over a damn tattoo. IMO of course.

The comment of "they've seen worse or wouldn't recognize or care about it" is dead on. In this age of tablets and smart phones you'd be fooling yourself to think they can't see just about anything that occurs to them (whether around you or around their friends at school or other random location)...the hope is they won't really care to look at it before they are "ready" (whenever that is lol)
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edgarthewoebringer wrote:

The comment of "they've seen worse or wouldn't recognize or care about it" is dead on. In this age of tablets and smart phones you'd be fooling yourself to think they can't see just about anything that occurs to them (whether around you or around their friends at school or other random location)...the hope is they won't really care to look at it before they are "ready" (whenever that is lol)


It REALLY isn’t. You’re absolutely right that stuff gets exposed earlier than you expect or want, but the idea that there is never any gap between the ability to recognize something as taboo and an interest and ability to seek it out themselves is foolish.

Dammit. I should have named this thread “taboo tattoos”!
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Are you going to ask about whether you should complain about tattoos that are related to violence, such as skulls, knives, guns, threatening verses, and so on?
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JasonJ0 wrote:
Are you going to ask about whether you should complain about tattoos that are related to violence, such as skulls, knives, guns, threatening verses, and so on?


No. I understand the view that these are morally more outrageous, but the ethic of purity is impossible to sustain. No child’s life is entirely free from exposure to violence, if only accidental. Lots of people think that it is possible (and desirable) for children to go from an age at which they think nothing of and don’t remember nude adults to an age at which they are beginning to consider their own sexuality without even once seeing explicit sexual content. I’m almost indifferent about this issue, so I’m not a great person to choose to enforce community standards which aim to make it possible, but the idea of such a community standard isn’t obviously stupid.

I do think that there’s a degree of violence I would think it possible to shield children from entirely. Extremely graphic, disturbing scenes of torture seem to me to reveal a degree of awfulness it is genuinely possible to keep one’s children from ever considering for at least a few years. I would have similar concerns about such a tattoo.
 
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I think that me and my family are the only people in the state of Indiana without tattoos.

When we go to the public pool, everyone and I mean everyone has tattoos.

And yeah, some of them are uncomfortably unusual. But how do you say, hey what’s up with the fucked up tattoo, without having an entire community look at you?
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nope I spuld that wrong completely on the first attempt.

besides you got bigger things to worry about than if I can spell - in a few years your presidents going to be trying to tap your daughter (if you have one).
 
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