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Curtis Himel
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I've watched some reviews and the game looks good, but I'm worried that this game will reward memorization and experience too much and that people who have memorized the patterns that their opponents might be playing for will be at a substantial advantage.

Is this a legitimate concern?
 
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Well, I know the patterns for the red/blue decks, because they are the same and I've played most games with them. As a result I think I enjoy games using these matched decks more, but I also enjoy playing games with all the other decks I'm still(!) totally unfamiliar with, so I don't see it as a problem.
 
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curtish wrote:
I've watched some reviews and the game looks good, but I'm worried that this game will reward memorization and experience too much and that people who have memorized the patterns that their opponents might be playing for will be at a substantial advantage.

Is this a legitimate concern?


Well, its not so hard to memorize the patterns, even each deck has a base pattern for most of the cards. So, your concern is legitimate but the advantage of memorization is very easy for everyone to claim it, after 5 games with each deck.
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Raphaël Langella
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Depends on how you play it. Very competitive play might involve knowing all the patterns, remembering the ones played so you can deduce the ones left, and also guessing what legends the opponent is holding from how he's placing his heroic pieces.
You can also play it much more casually. As long as everybody plays in the same spirit there's no issue.
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Alison Mandible
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This can be a little bit of a problem with the Empire deck, which has a lot of very distinctive patterns. But there are only a few you really want to look out for-- knowing your opponent is about to play Infantry Captain isn't that interesting. You'll learn those key cards after a game or two. Maybe less; if you play Empire vs. Empire for your first game, you'll recognize some enemy patterns during your first game because you've already drawn that card from your own deck.

But for the most part, new players are way too busy figuring out how to DO anything. They couldn't make use of information about what their opponent is holding even if they had it.

On the third hand, experience is a BIG advantage in Tash-Kalar; a good player will almost always beat a new player. But it's not because they've memorized the cards. Overall tactics, task balancing, flare management, and knowing your own deck are all more important than making guesses about what your opponent is holding.
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Each faction has a "base pattern" which most of the patterns in the deck is formed around.
I am however -not- going to list them for you. I've tried that for some people, and I've come to the conclusion that different people see different base patterns. So it's about identifying them your self.

I've played some 150-200 games of Tash-Kalar, and I still switch my base patterns now and then.
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Nathaniel Chambers
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I've honestly loved this game, played it casually through the years, and not once have I memorized a pattern. I just do what's best for me at any given moment, and do my best to wreck the opponent when it suits me. My main recommendation is to stick with 'high form' mode, all the other modes just don't work for me.

That said, I don't play it competitively. If I were to, this may well be an issue.
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Markus Pfefferle
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curtish wrote:
Is this a legitimate concern?


A "concern"? Many people would consider it a rather positive thing when a game actually favors more experienced players and isn't just random luckfest.
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There are guides people have put together which surmise the patterns from the base decks. Using these you can see what patterns your opponent may be going for.

e.g. Tash-Kalar - Patterns
 
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