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Billy Crawford - Greybeard
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A question for painters/modelers.

I've been building semi-custom bases for my quarry/nemesis but so far have only been doing the smaller models (kings man, hand, butcher, lion, and antelope). I'm using 1mm paperclips for the pin on those.

My question is on the larger models (sunstalker, dragon king, maybe even gorm), if you've been pinning these to the base, are you using larger paperclips/pins (like the 1.5mm ones)? Also, are you pinning in multiple spots? I feel like 1 - 1mm paperclip isn't going to hold the sunstalker or king down on the base.

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If you're attaching them directly to the included plastic bases and using plastic cement they don't really have the weight that would require pinning.
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I'm not attaching them directly to the base. I'm building a custom base that has about a 1 mm or so layer of medium that won't hold the miniature directly, so I'm pinning them.
 
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I've been pinning mine using the 1mm clips. I've been using 2 points on the large models (Dragon King, Sunstalker) and everything else seems fine with 1 point.
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phillipsjr2 wrote:
I've been pinning mine using the 1mm clips. I've been using 2 points on the large models (Dragon King, Sunstalker) and everything else seems fine with 1 point.


Perfect, that's what I was looking for. Thank ya, sir!
 
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Increasing the size of the pin does little to increase the stability, but even 1 more pin does a lot. I am doing my bases the same way you are, with 1 pin on the smaller models, and 2 on the phoenix. I *might* go up to 3 on the DK or the SS, but they also look like pretty stable models, so its probably not necessary.
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Awesome!

this is the first time i've pinned minis.... boy it eats up those tiny drill bits.
 
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phaelen2003 wrote:
Awesome!

this is the first time i've pinned minis.... boy it eats up those tiny drill bits.


Eats them up as in wears them out? That shouldn't be happening unless you're using stone or a hard metal between the base and mini. On the plastic one bit should last you years.
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cormor321 wrote:
phaelen2003 wrote:
Awesome!

this is the first time i've pinned minis.... boy it eats up those tiny drill bits.


Eats them up as in wears them out? That shouldn't be happening unless you're using stone or a hard metal between the base and mini. On the plastic one bit should last you years.



Yeah that seems strange to me too.

Are you bending them?

The key is to only apply slight pressure and let the bit cut, not the pressure. Back them out to clear out the hole and bit grooves frequently.


I have bits that I've used for 20 years on hard old GW pewter and everything in between that still work great.


I agree with the above about thickness of the pin not being vital. A paperclip is great, as is music wire. Any steel wire works well.

 
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For killing the bits, are you drilling by hand or with something powered? Too high of speeds will also wreck things.
 
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Found a video of pinning and other preparation, with the Screaming Antelope! Army Painter's drill for pinning is under $10 at Miniature Market.

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phaelen2003 wrote:
this is the first time i've pinned minis.... boy it eats up those tiny drill bits.


I certainly hope that you are using a hand drill / pin vise for drilling. Go slowly and gently.
 
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I use 2 pins for everything that doesn’t have a substantial socket (e.g. the Phoenix’s wings (which I pinned so it’s easier to store)). 2 pins is a huge increase in stability over 1.
 
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Yeah, it seems like I might be applying to much pressure.

Totally using a hand drill, no way I'd pull out the power drill for these. I think it's a case of just pushing to hard while I'm drilling then?

Sounds like I should just take my time and let the drill do the work instead of muscle?
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I really only pin models where there isn't much contact with the surface. This is pretty rare on a large model.
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