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You need redux games? Cool, I'll take 2011. The game will be Write Somebody Else's Role 3. I'll need a comod.




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Crap, 2011 is taken. Fortunately, Write Somebody Else's Role 2 ran in 2014, so I'll take that instead. Still need a comod though.



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Do you need an experienced comod, or just a comod? Because if the latter, then I'd love to. If the former, then I suspect that even by October I won't count as experienced.













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I'm... not sure how that translates into modding a werewolf game?




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Write Somebody Else's Role Three

What: A game patterned after Pure Chaos, where the players submit the roles.
The Twist: Unlike Pure Chaos, the players aren't writing their own roles. They're writing roles for someone else.
How: Controlled, hopefully. Chaos will be present but hopefully it won't be too much. There will be only two teams, for example. The last game reached a very tense final four with plenty of chances for either team to take the lead. Hopefully, it will play more like traditional hidden roles than it will Pure Chaos.
When: In October. We'll go if we have 13 players or more, though more is always better.
How Many: 17-25 would be good. I'd prefer not to run it with less than 15, but any number 13+ is probably workable.
Who: Dejo and me! Dejo can help make sure I don't make mechanics that are stupid or insane. I hear I need help with that.

Rules

When signing up, every player will submit several roles within the following guidelines:

o 1-3 Good roles
o 1-2 Max Evil roles
o 0-1 Aux Evil roles

So the minimum number of submissions is 2 and the maximum is 6. You may submit roles that could fit either of these categories; but be aware you will start with less information by not being aware of what alignment may be associated with your submitted role.

When all roles are submitted and approved, I will use the submitted roles to create a setup for the game, and assign the selected roles, the one rule being that nobody will get a role they designed. Obviously, each player will know what role they submitted, and can choose to reveal this information or not, as they see fit.

All evil roles will be informed of at least one good role not present in the game for cover purposes. Players will not be told who submitted their role.

Up to three (0-3) roles in the game will be created not by the players but by the moderators. These roles will not be known by anybody except who they are assigned to. The purpose of this is to help balance the game and make an all-reveal of possible roles slightly less useful for good. Mod created roles are subject to the same restrictions as player-created ones.

There may also be villagers (good players with no powers), traitors (aux evils with no powers) and ordinary wolves (max evils with no powers). These may, at the mod's discretion, be given to players who do not submit any roles. Hopefully it won't come to that, but at least I have a rule in place to deal with it.

Restrictions

o The Rule of Cool is in full effect.
o Mod chat and wolf chat cannot be spied on by any means.
o No neutrals. No personal or alternate VCs. No hidden players.
o No conversion.
o No hidden role information; all roles must work with full information being known to both the creator and the receiver of a role.
o No creating powers during the game.
o No modlike or godlike powers.
o All roles must have a name.
o Players may not collaborate on roles before the game without prior mod permission (which I will only give for the utterly coolest of ideas).
o Communication with or reviving the dead will be allowed on a limited basis (it had better come with a darn cool role).
o View tampering will be allowed on a limited basis (again, the role had better be pretty cool).
o Power blocking for more than 24 hours is allowed on a limited basis (see the "fun" rule below).
o Role swapping is not allowed as it is too much of a headache.
o Toughness won't be allowed without a good reason.
o No inherent post restrictions.
o No powers that require a certain pre-set phrase to be posted in the thread to activate. This would give the creator of the role power over the person who receives the role (see below). Such a power might be accepted if the recipient of the role could choose their own phrase, but the moderator will not count this as much of a restriction.
o Silly random effects (see: the casino in Write Your Own Role, or the locations in that same game) will not be approved.
o New game mechanics will be accepted only if they're not a lot of trouble (as decided by the moderator).
o All implementations and interpretations of roles are up to the mod.
o The mod is opposed to roles that could publicly confirm their presence in the game. I'm not forbidding them outright, as I think cool roles can be made that use that mechanic, but it's only fair to warn you it'll be hard to impress me if you try that.
o No role will be accepted if, in the moderator's opinion, it will not be a fun role to play. No role which the moderator thinks is likely to destroy the fun of other players will be accepted. No role which gives the creator of the role power over the player who receives it will be allowed.
o The mods may add more to this list if they think of something that needs to be added.

Other Stuff

o Complete role and team information will be revealed on death by default.
o Good wins when all max evils are eliminated.
o Evil wins at max evil parity.
o Default tiebreaker is LHLV.
o I have decided to restrict dawn sniping in this game. Please do not post if there are less than 30 minutes before the night orders deadline.
o All assigned roles and cover roles will be given a number 1-10. Players will not know what number their created roles received; only their assigned one (including cover role(s) if that player is evil). If I can't resolve a contest of powers, the lower number will win.
o Items will be handled using the cassy physics system. Items will be distributed to the killer(s) or voters if possible on a holder's death; otherwise they will be passed at random. You can hold as many items as you like, and can pass any or all of them as a night action.
o The mod won't lie, unless you count tampered view results.
o If you cannot participate, please do not sign up.
o Balance? Not likely.
o Be respectful to fellow players.
o No zombie posts.
o Don't edit or delete posts.
o Actually, don't do any of the stuff that's usually frowned upon in these games and let's keep this list somewhat short, okay?
o Some form of an all-reveal plan will probably be proposed at some point. It is not against the spirit of the game to engage in this plan. Of course I can't say whether or not it will be a good idea.
o Lynch and night orders deadline is 4:00/5:00 respectively. Times in Cassy are a placeholder.

Link to WSER 1: http://www.thecassandraproject.org/jeremy/werewolf/game/6693...
Link to roles in WSER 1: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/article/7292347#7292347
Link to WSER Two:
https://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/1131078/write-somebody-...
Link to Role in WSER Two:
https://www.boardgamegeek.com/article/15189080#15189080
Link to Redux Information Thread:
https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1883818/2018-bgg-werewolf-r...

I am not forbidding players from submitting the same roles over again, but that's not really the point of the game, is it?

Probably more to come. Sign up!
 
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Player List According to Cassandra:
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ljtrigirl
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Raven1207
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20 players are signed up.

To sign up for this game go to
http://cassandrawerewolf.com/game/2018065
 
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I'll play if dispaminite plays.
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GrimJester wrote:
I'll play if dispaminite plays.

Maybe I should send an invite to players of the last version.
 
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GrimJester wrote:
I'll play if dispaminite plays.

I am very tempted. I just don't know if I have the time.
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I can submit a role, regardless. whistle
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I just signed up on Cassandra.
 
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I just signed up on Cassandra.
Hi. Are you new here? Or a new sock puppet?
 
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Dispaminite wrote:
I can submit a role, regardless. whistle
If you're thinking what I'm thinking, we should both sign up.
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GrimJester wrote:
Dispaminite wrote:
I can submit a role, regardless. whistle
If you're thinking what I'm thinking, we should both sign up.

I'm twomillionbucks, and I approve this message.
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Bumping, because this will be here sooner then you think!
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I'm on vacation next week and away from BGG. I'll put the game in progress when I get back, hopefully spend a week or so making the setup, and then we'll play. If you haven't sent roles yet, now is a good time to start!

Please apply appropriate social pressure to Grim and Dispaminite to make them sign up.
 
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How should we submit our roles? Any format guidelines to follow?
 
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Farren wrote:
How should we submit our roles? Any format guidelines to follow?

By geekmail to Twomil and myself. I don't see that there's a specific format needed as long as it's clear what the name of each role is, what the intended powers are, and how the roles fit into the categories of good special, max evil, and aux evil.
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Farren wrote:
How should we submit our roles? Any format guidelines to follow?

By geekmail to Twomil and myself. I don't see that there's a specific format needed as long as it's clear what the name of each role is, what the intended powers are, and how the roles fit into the categories of good special, max evil, and aux evil.

I'll handle reformatting, and probably do things with wording on most roles.
 
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Hi guys! I just wanted to say that I'm fundamentally opposed to any kind of Day 1 all claim about what roles we wrote of any kind. I'll let yall know that I'm writing a pretty complex full set of six roles, but other than that, I'm not going to be sharing what I wrote until I'm ready but definitely not Day 1 or Day 2.

Just so that people know my refusal has nothing to do with alignment! I've been in a few games like this and happened to be evil and refused to do it there, so I wanted to be clear that it's a meta strategy thing, not an "I'm evil" strategy thing.

I also will not be participating in any discussions day 1 about the idea of all claiming at any point and will like disappear for a while if that's what D1 becomes.
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Hi guys! I just wanted to say that I'm fundamentally opposed to any kind of Day 1 all claim about what roles we wrote of any kind. I'll let yall know that I'm writing a pretty complex full set of six roles, but other than that, I'm not going to be sharing what I wrote until I'm ready but definitely not Day 1 or Day 2.

Just so that people know my refusal has nothing to do with alignment! I've been in a few games like this and happened to be evil and refused to do it there, so I wanted to be clear that it's a meta strategy thing, not an "I'm evil" strategy thing.

I also will not be participating in any discussions day 1 about the idea of all claiming at any point and will like disappear for a while if that's what D1 becomes.

In the past, some people have submitted roles designed to penalize all-claims. Ideas for those of you that hate them!
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I am on vacation this week, so please do not be angry if there is some delay in getting back to you about your roles.
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May I ask how this works?

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Raven1207 wrote:
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May I ask how this works?

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It's in this post: https://boardgamegeek.com/article/29429484#29429484
 
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