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I was bothered by the fact that Azul was so big, making it difficult to transport (read: taking up a lot of space). The main reason for the size, were the player boards.

This made me think, and with some help on the Azul forum, I came to the conclusion that transfer paper and ironing the design on cloth was the easiest, cheapest and fastest solution available.

I found the PDF rules online, extracted the player board and started manipulating the location of things, so the design would fit on an A4-page, without altering the size of the spots for tiles (since the tiles can't be resized!)

Note: I have asked Next Move Games permission to share the file. As soon as I've done that, I will share it in the files section of Azul.

I did some size testing before printing on the transfer paper:


After that, I got going with the transfer paper:


The printed pages


Here we go


Easy does it


Taking breaks (to take the previous picture) is not a good idea. It makes a kind of fold or line in the middle.


Testing


Inside the bag


Ready to play!

All in all it worked pretty good and I'm looking forward to trying it out. The colors got a bit too vibrant, so next time (and as a tip to anyone attempting the same), I am going to lighten the print with about 10%. I guess the "paper" it was printed on, made the colors too deep.

Also, I found out it's better to roll them, than to fold them, since it's not really cloth, but a small plastic layer melted on top. Rolling prevents folds.

I only ruined one player board, because I read online you could iron a normal sheet of paper on top of it, to make a protective layer. However, that didn't work with my transfer paper, so it melted the blank sheet of paper on top of the print, simply destroying it. So at the moment, I'm stuck at 3 player boards, haha! I'm going to reprint one today, and finish the project tonight.
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Very nice Robbert. Which version of the game do you have? The board looks different to mine which is square. Did you also make cloth versions of the discs?
 
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These are awesome! I can totally see how these will immediately make more games easier to haul about.

Also, I can see this maybe being a nice cheap answer to the poor Terraforming Mars player boards...
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Tigrillo wrote:
Very nice Robbert. Which version of the game do you have? The board looks different to mine which is square. Did you also make cloth versions of the discs?


I have the Scandinavian version, with the square boards. I had to manipulate them (found the board in the digital manual, manipulated it in Photoshop) to make it fit on an A4.

I have asked Next Move Games for permission to share the ready-to-print file, but haven't gotten a answer yet.

No, I have not made a cloth version of the discs, since those are small enough to fit in the bag But it'd be easy to make!

I am considering making a "middle tile" though, since I feel that's missing in the game.
 
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Ahh so that's why. Having the discs would have the benefit of making the game weather resistant
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Tigrillo wrote:
Ahh so that's why. Having the discs would have the benefit of making the game weather resistant


True! I didn't even think about that

The fact that these player boards can be washed at 40°C, makes them pretty water resistant, haha!
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rvervuurt wrote:
I only ruined one player board, because I read online you could iron a normal sheet of paper on top of it, to make a protective layer. However, that didn't work with my transfer paper, so it melted the blank sheet of paper on top of the print, simply destroying it. So at the moment, I'm stuck at 3 player boards, haha! I'm going to reprint one today, and finish the project tonight.

this might be due to miscommunication on if its an ink or laser print. I've run in to some project techniques like this before and they typically only work with one type of printer.

Anyways, nice work and thanks for the post sharing!
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mafman6 wrote:
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I only ruined one player board, because I read online you could iron a normal sheet of paper on top of it, to make a protective layer. However, that didn't work with my transfer paper, so it melted the blank sheet of paper on top of the print, simply destroying it. So at the moment, I'm stuck at 3 player boards, haha! I'm going to reprint one today, and finish the project tonight.

this might be due to miscommunication on if its an ink or laser print. I've run in to some project techniques like this before and they typically only work with one type of printer.

Anyways, nice work and thanks for the post sharing!


Oh no no, it's not like that! The paper I printed was perfect and when I transferred it with the iron, it was also perfect.

However, I saw a YT-video with a different kind of transfer paper (I didn't know they existed), where he added a protective layer by ironing some plain paper on top of it. This should add a small layer of fiber, but because of the material I used, it just melted together with the A4, totally ruining it, haha

As we use in the IT world: RTFM. If I did that, I wouldn't have made the mistake
 
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Hey Robbert!

I'm an artist and colorist for Marvel, and if you don't mind if I gave you a quick piece of advice regarding the coloring, instead of lightening the print, reduce the saturation. The colors look vibrant because they are overexposed. The other indicator of high saturation is that your "darks" look too dark.

I would reduce the saturation by around 15-20% and see how it looks. Sometimes this will look flat but with as high saturation that it is now, you could actually benefit from it.

All in all its a great idea and I hope to see more photos if you decide to do more.

What did you end up doing for the circle offers templates?
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Hey Robbert!

I'm an artist and colorist for Marvel, and if you don't mind if I gave you a quick piece of advice regarding the coloring, instead of lightening the print, reduce the saturation. The colors look vibrant because they are overexposed. The other indicator of high saturation is that your "darks" look too dark.

I would reduce the saturation by around 15-20% and see how it looks. Sometimes this will look flat but with as high saturation that it is now, you could actually benefit from it.

All in all its a great idea and I hope to see more photos if you decide to do more.

What did you end up doing for the circle offers templates?


Good tip, thanks! I printed the 4th player board the same way, to be consistent, but the next time, I'll try to lower the saturation. I'm pretty sure the transfer paper made the colors too vibrant, because I printed normally.

Also, the yellows are stuck to the paper, as you can see in the picture where I had removed half of the protective paper, which makes all colors become darker I guess.

I have not decided for the factory circles yet. But it's probably going to be one bigger middle circle, with space for the 9 factory circles around the board.

To prevent the small circles from flying away when playing in a windy area, I am considering either small magnets, or snap fasteners.
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Or adding them to the central 'board' perhaps?
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With a 2 or 3 player game, you don't use all factory tiles, so it could be confusing, if all 9 were visible in those games.

I'm considering these fasteners. 1cm in diameter:
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Nice work! Thanks for sharing.

This got me thinking of another way to make the game more portable....

12 notched wooden sticks (or dowels) per player. 6 vertical and 6 horizontal to build a 5x5 lattice. Tiles pending placement to just form loose rows on the left side.

Toss in some mini poker chips for scoring.

Of course that only works for "blank side" style play, unles I think of some elaborate coloring scheme for the sticks.
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This would be awesome to apply to Nations. A huge box just because de playerboards don't fold!
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Nunesh wrote:
This would be awesome to apply to Nations. A huge box just because de playerboards don't fold!

Great point!

Does anyone know if there is already any sort of repository for these kinds of files? Or plans to make one?
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I have 'Backpacks and Blisters' a Ragnar Brothers game based on hiking in the English Lake District. The "map" comes printed on a tea-towel. Light and convenient to carry, but it needs frequent ironing (or a perspex sheet) to make it sit flat on the table.
PS: They warn you not to use the tea-towel for navigation on the hills!
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If numbers were added to the factory displays, "3" for inclusion in 3 player games and "4" for inclusion in 4 player games, you could put all nine displays on the cloth. Leaving 5 blank since they are always used.
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andybagley wrote:
I have 'Backpacks and Blisters' a Ragnar Brothers game based on hiking in the English Lake District. The "map" comes printed on a tea-towel. Light and convenient to carry, but it needs frequent ironing (or a perspex sheet) to make it sit flat on the table.
PS: They warn you not to use the tea-towel for navigation on the hills!

Looks like 'perspex' is what we in the US call plexiglass. Carrying around a sheet of that to flatten your map would defeat the compactness purpose of having a roll-up map, wouldn't it?
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hexahedron wrote:
andybagley wrote:
I have 'Backpacks and Blisters' a Ragnar Brothers game based on hiking in the English Lake District. The "map" comes printed on a tea-towel. Light and convenient to carry, but it needs frequent ironing (or a perspex sheet) to make it sit flat on the table.
PS: They warn you not to use the tea-towel for navigation on the hills!

Looks like 'perspex' is what we in the US call plexiglass. Carrying around a sheet of that to flatten your map would defeat the compactness purpose of having a roll-up map, wouldn't it?


An alternative covering you should consider is a cut-to-size clear acetate sheet (available at art supply or hobby/craft stores). A thinner mil (thickness) could be held in place over the cloth with tape at the corners, or if using a heavier mil it would likely be heavy enough to hold everything in place without tape. Either type would be thin enough to roll up along with the cloth in one roll.
 
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Wow those look really nice! Great job!
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andybagley wrote:
I have 'Backpacks and Blisters' a Ragnar Brothers game based on hiking in the English Lake District. The "map" comes printed on a tea-towel. Light and convenient to carry, but it needs frequent ironing (or a perspex sheet) to make it sit flat on the table.
PS: They warn you not to use the tea-towel for navigation on the hills!

Looks like 'perspex' is what we in the US call plexiglass. Carrying around a sheet of that to flatten your map would defeat the compactness purpose of having a roll-up map, wouldn't it?


An alternative covering you should consider is a cut-to-size clear acetate sheet (available at art supply or hobby/craft stores). A thinner mil (thickness) could be held in place over the cloth with tape at the corners, or if using a heavier mil it would likely be heavy enough to hold everything in place without tape. Either type would be thin enough to roll up along with the cloth in one roll.



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Excellent idea, thanks for sharing!

I wonder how well contact paper (clear plastic sticky sheets) on top of the iron on transfer (after it's in place and done, would work?

Thanks!
 
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can you give me specs on the transfer paper?

also what type of printer/ink/does it matter?

you did not have to do anything to the edges? if you cut where the transfer paper is they did not fray?

looks like you just used 100% cotton bleached muslin? fabric it seems must be finely woven to get such a solid result.
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candio wrote:
can you give me specs on the transfer paper?

also what type of printer/ink/does it matter?

you did not have to do anything to the edges? if you cut where the transfer paper is they did not fray?

looks like you just used 100% cotton bleached muslin? fabric it seems must be finely woven to get such a solid result.


Just bought transfer paper that worked with an inkjet printer. But I'm pretty sure you can get transfer paper for any kind of printer.

Bought it in A4, but the player boards are smaller. Just ironed the whole thing on and cut along the edges. No fraying (yet?).

Yea, it was 100% cotton. I just bought a pillow case. I don't think it was super finely woven, since the transfer paper basically just puts a layer of plastic on the cotton, it's not like the ink is really transferred to the cotton, it's a whole layer

lovemyfire wrote:
Excellent idea, thanks for sharing!

I wonder how well contact paper (clear plastic sticky sheets) on top of the iron on transfer (after it's in place and done, would work?

Thanks!


Could you explain what you mean? Would you add contact paper, to protect it even more, or how should I read your post?

leonbloo wrote:
If numbers were added to the factory displays, "3" for inclusion in 3 player games and "4" for inclusion in 4 player games, you could put all nine displays on the cloth. Leaving 5 blank since they are always used.


Good idea! The main problem is: I don't know if I can fit those 9 factory tiles and a middle-tile on one A4, so I will have to order A3 paper in order to do that.

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Nunesh wrote:
This would be awesome to apply to Nations. A huge box just because de playerboards don't fold!

Great point!

Does anyone know if there is already any sort of repository for these kinds of files? Or plans to make one?


I would love to start a repository/geeklist with items like these, but as long as something is made with graphics they (probably) copyrighted, I don't know if I should

Thanks for all the thumbs everyone! It makes me want to try it with more games
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rvervuurt wrote:
lovemyfire wrote:
Excellent idea, thanks for sharing!

I wonder how well contact paper (clear plastic sticky sheets) on top of the iron on transfer (after it's in place and done, would work?

Thanks!


Could you explain what you mean? Would you add contact paper, to protect it even more, or how should I read your post?

Yes, to protect it more. My thought is to add contact paper after you've already done the iron-on transfer. I'm just curious if it would be beneficial or cause problems. If I ever try this iron-on method I'll have to test it with contact paper too.

Thx!
 
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