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The one thing I can say for sure is that everyone has one or two people they don't want to vote for on D1: their 1-2 clears.
 
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ljtrigirl wrote:
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I regret claiming my clears now.

I think we should probably arbitrarily lynch D1 and then start game solving on D2.
I don't regret it.

I think I'm probably the lowest on the list to lynch or nk now.

If you want to be good, I'm less likely to be a wolf. If you want to be evil, I'm less likely to be the seer.

I just feel like three of us are going to randomly turn out to be evil, and if we all play for good and math things out, they just randomly lose.
Makes me think of playing BSG where you're not sure if you're going to turn out to be a Sleeper Cylon or not. But we'll have a better idea as the game goes on if that's likely or not. So in the meantime, do you hedge your bets? Do you hold a little back? Or do you go full-on good?
 
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With Trigun being this lock consensus good read for so many people, I find it really bizarre that she's alive. There's a threshold where if she's still alive she should probably be murdalated.
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Royalflush wrote:
ljtrigirl wrote:
Royalflush wrote:
ljtrigirl wrote:
I regret claiming my clears now.

I think we should probably arbitrarily lynch D1 and then start game solving on D2.
I don't regret it.

I think I'm probably the lowest on the list to lynch or nk now.

If you want to be good, I'm less likely to be a wolf. If you want to be evil, I'm less likely to be the seer.

I just feel like three of us are going to randomly turn out to be evil, and if we all play for good and math things out, they just randomly lose.
Makes me think of playing BSG where you're not sure if you're going to turn out to be a Sleeper Cylon or not. But we'll have a better idea as the game goes on if that's likely or not. So in the meantime, do you hedge your bets? Do you hold a little back? Or do you go full-on good?

I plan to randomly determine today's lynch and then actually try to figure out how to play tomorrow.
 
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Alright everybody.
1d10 = (5) = 5

Let's do this!
 
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[vote royalflush]
 
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VOTE TALLY

Player (9/9) - # - Voted by

TWM03 - 2 - Royalflush(3), ljtrigirl(4)
ljtrigirl - 1 - Smugs(1)
whirlingdervish - 1 - Jedit(2)
Royalflush - 1 - Mimikyu(5)

Not Voting: Kortemaki, TWM03, whirlingdervish, zenofkermit


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INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

Jedit - 1 - whirlingdervish(2)
ljtrigirl - 1 - TWM03(4)
Mimikyu - 1 - Royalflush(5)
Royalflush - 1 - TWM03(3)
Smugs - 1 - ljtrigirl(1)

Not Voting: Kortemaki, TWM03, whirlingdervish, zenofkermit
 
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Did anyone's Seer/Sorcerer N0 views end up not on the same person?

Also, [vote Jedit]
 
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whirlingdervish wrote:
Did anyone's Seer/Sorcerer N0 views end up not on the same person?

Also, [vote Jedit]

Mine were different people
 
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Mimikyu wrote:
Alright everybody.
Mimikyu previously rolled 1d10 = (5) = 5

Let's do this!
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whirlingdervish wrote:
Did anyone's Seer/Sorcerer N0 views end up not on the same person?

Also, [vote Jedit]
Mine were different.
 
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VOTE TALLY

Player (9/9) - # - Voted by

TWM03 - 2 - Royalflush(3), ljtrigirl(4)
ljtrigirl - 1 - Smugs(1)
whirlingdervish - 1 - Jedit(2)
Royalflush - 1 - Mimikyu(5)
Jedit - 1 - whirlingdervish(6)

Not Voting: Kortemaki, TWM03, zenofkermit


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INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

Jedit - 1 - whirlingdervish(2)
ljtrigirl - 1 - TWM03(4)
Mimikyu - 1 - Royalflush(5)
Royalflush - 1 - TWM03(3)
Smugs - 1 - ljtrigirl(1)
whirlingdervish - 1 - Jedit(6)

Not Voting: Kortemaki, TWM03, zenofkermit
 
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Neat. Mine were the same.
 
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ljtrigirl wrote:
Royalflush wrote:
ljtrigirl wrote:
I regret claiming my clears now.

I think we should probably arbitrarily lynch D1 and then start game solving on D2.
I don't regret it.

I think I'm probably the lowest on the list to lynch or nk now.

If you want to be good, I'm less likely to be a wolf. If you want to be evil, I'm less likely to be the seer.

I just feel like three of us are going to randomly turn out to be evil, and if we all play for good and math things out, they just randomly lose.
You, Royalflush, and who's the third?

I don't think there's a huge problem claiming N0s. Claiming views becomes more of a math problem later in the game.

My N0s were you and TWM. I'm not going to say which is which, though devil
 
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[vote jedit]

He was evil in that one game. Probability-wise he's probably evil again. Probably.
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Guys I have a Conditional Priest Order in to view whoever gets lynched. :o
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VOTE TALLY

Player (9/9) - # - Voted by

TWM03 - 2 - Royalflush(3), ljtrigirl(4)
Jedit - 2 - whirlingdervish(6), zenofkermit(7)
ljtrigirl - 1 - Smugs(1)
whirlingdervish - 1 - Jedit(2)
Royalflush - 1 - Mimikyu(5)

Not Voting: Kortemaki, TWM03


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INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

Jedit - 1 - whirlingdervish(2)
ljtrigirl - 1 - TWM03(4)
Mimikyu - 1 - Royalflush(5)
Royalflush - 1 - TWM03(3)
Smugs - 1 - ljtrigirl(1)
whirlingdervish - 1 - Jedit(6)
zenofkermit - 1 - Jedit(7)

Not Voting: Kortemaki, TWM03
 
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I think we should probably at least give out our seer night 0's before we die at lynch?
 
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With Trigun being this lock consensus good read for so many people, I find it really bizarre that she's alive. There's a threshold where if she's still alive she should probably be murdalated.
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Mimikyu wrote:
I think we should probably at least give out our seer night 0's before we die at lynch?

Yep!

Looks like Korte or TWM is getting my nightfall!
 
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Keep in mind that once someone is killed completely, somebody's chance of being a seer may drop to 0 if they flip wolf and had them as a n0. Maybe don't be so obvious with who you had as targets.
 
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Jedit wrote:
Smugs wrote:
I feel like generally, we should all be hedging and playing for Village, in the general likelihood that, today at least, we are more likely to be Good than Evil.

I also think claiming Seer N0s is fine?

I don't think we're likely to know, or even suspect, our roles before the game is over, unless we go to an F3.

Finally, no kill today? It gives us more possible views and things to work with.

No, we lynch today. We can't lose by it, and a lynch narrows the worlds faster than a set of actions.

It does, but narrowing the worlds isn't necessarily a Good oriented thing. More information about the possible worlds, so we can funnel down a route that most living players win in is maybe the best play?
 
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Royalflush wrote:
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I feel like generally, we should all be hedging and playing for Village, in the general likelihood that, today at least, we are more likely to be Good than Evil.
Agreed.

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I also think claiming Seer N0s is fine?
Is it though?

What if three of us clear Player X. I think we just condemned Player X to be nk'ed by wolves. No?

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I don't think we're likely to know, or even suspect, our roles before the game is over, unless we go to an F3.
I think there might be some strategy that would help us enable ourselves to be one role or another later on.

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Finally, no kill today? It gives us more possible views and things to work with.
True.

Although, as long as the lynch is someone other than me, I'm okay with it. Then we just have to ensure that the player we lynch is likely to be a wolf.

Wolves can't kill themselves anyway, so a kill on Player X is no more meaningful than kills elsewhere. It just funnels us down worlds where X isn't a Wolf, which is largely irrelevant? And if the Wolves want to kill X because three possible Seers have X as their clear, and leave those possible Seers alive, then great, IMO.
 
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ljtrigirl wrote:
Royalflush wrote:
ljtrigirl wrote:
I regret claiming my clears now.

I think we should probably arbitrarily lynch D1 and then start game solving on D2.
I don't regret it.

I think I'm probably the lowest on the list to lynch or nk now.

If you want to be good, I'm less likely to be a wolf. If you want to be evil, I'm less likely to be the seer.

I just feel like three of us are going to randomly turn out to be evil, and if we all play for good and math things out, they just randomly lose.

I mean, I agree, but is that worse than playing for Evil and losing because you were Good? Or even slightly hedging and losing because you didn't reveal your info and you were actually the Seer?
 
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Mimikyu wrote:
Keep in mind that once someone is killed completely, somebody's chance of being a seer may drop to 0 if they flip wolf and had them as a n0. Maybe don't be so obvious with who you had as targets.

We won't know what anyone flips. Although you know you're not the Seer if you receive a Wolf Priest view on someone you had as a clear. Or you know your not the Priest. Which is a tautology anyway. So you still know nothing.
 
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I will add that I legit don't fully understand how this works, so I'm playing against a model of what I think the game is in my head, so all my theorising could be shite.

Therefore, you should probably kill me and hope we're on opposite teams, because I'll likely be leading you astray
 
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I thought once we lynched somebody they were 100% dead so that their role was determined to narrow down everything?
 
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