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Hey guys,

So, I want to make some alt-art cards, but I'm wondering about the rules regarding images I use for the art, specifically pictures of US national parks.
- How do I check if an image is legal to use?
- Are the laws less restrictive if I don't distribute the custom card?
 
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I think the biggest problem you would run into would be with FFG/Asmodee depending on how you planned on distributing them. It definitely would not be cool with them to use their specific card templates if you were going to sell alt art cards.

I know there are some custom card printing services online that will no longer print anything that looks like lord of the rings cards. It's a major bummer!
 
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Good on you for not just wanting to swipe images off the web!

The fact is that most images on the Internet are not just free for the taking (although most would carry few if any consequences for doing so). One place you might check is the Library of Congress' site. Not everything there is public domain, but they have rights advisories on a lot of it to tell you whether you're likely to be able to use it (but even they have a disclaimer on every page saying "hey, it's up to you to figure out the rights...").

Even easier might be to use Creative Commons search tool, which found me lots of National Park images that can be used under the CC license, which is pretty permissive.

Good luck!
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Donkler wrote:
I think the biggest problem you would run into would be with FFG/Asmodee depending on how you planned on distributing them. It definitely would not be cool with them to use their specific card templates if you were going to sell alt art cards.


So what's with the alt art proxies folks sell on ebay? I always thought that seemed illegal am I missing something?
 
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John85 wrote:
Donkler wrote:
I think the biggest problem you would run into would be with FFG/Asmodee depending on how you planned on distributing them. It definitely would not be cool with them to use their specific card templates if you were going to sell alt art cards.


So what's with the alt art proxies folks sell on ebay? I always thought that seemed illegal am I missing something?


I mean you can sell whatever you want until someone starts taking legal action against you. Just search ebay for bootleg bart simpson shirts. I mainly wanted to point out for OP that if they are worried about only using legitimately free artwork they shouldn't use the same design template from the official cards.

Ron actually gave a much more helpful answer to the original question though, ha.
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John85 wrote:
Donkler wrote:
I think the biggest problem you would run into would be with FFG/Asmodee depending on how you planned on distributing them. It definitely would not be cool with them to use their specific card templates if you were going to sell alt art cards.


So what's with the alt art proxies folks sell on ebay? I always thought that seemed illegal am I missing something?


I believe the "alt-art" cards there on E-bay are the ones from conventions and fellowship events which are legally printed by FFG and thus can be sold on places like E-bay.
 
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Greengrappler wrote:
So, I want to make some alt-art cards, but I'm wondering about the rules regarding images I use for the art, specifically pictures of US national parks.
- How do I check if an image is legal to use?
- Are the laws less restrictive if I don't distribute the custom card?

This is always good place to start: https://www.copyright.gov/fair-use/more-info.html.
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Dren608 wrote:
John85 wrote:
Donkler wrote:
I think the biggest problem you would run into would be with FFG/Asmodee depending on how you planned on distributing them. It definitely would not be cool with them to use their specific card templates if you were going to sell alt art cards.


So what's with the alt art proxies folks sell on ebay? I always thought that seemed illegal am I missing something?


I believe the "alt-art" cards there on E-bay are the ones from conventions and fellowship events which are legally printed by FFG and thus can be sold on places like E-bay.

Not the ones I'm talking about. I've seen some holofoils and art that wouldn't have passed the licensing folks at Disney (nor FFGs art dept)
 
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If you don’t distribute you will have no issues.
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