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The snowball is reaching mammoth proportions as it rolls downhill toward indictments or impeachments.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/18/politics/trump-foundation...

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"Our petition detailed a shocking pattern of illegality involving the Trump Foundation -- including unlawful coordination with the Trump presidential campaign, repeated and willful self-dealing, and much more. This amounted to the Trump Foundation functioning as little more than a checkbook to serve Mr. Trump's business and political interests," Underwood said in a statement Tuesday.

Barbara Underwood is the NY State AG.

Trump fits that pattern of spoiled rich boys given millions by their parents: the law is to be obeyed only if you can make money out of it, otherwise, fuck it.
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I don't think this will come as a surprise to anyone.
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Fake News. The Clinton Foundation killed puppies.
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Catching a white-collar criminal AFTER we elect him president is what passes for good news these days.

I'm surprised. Not because Trump did thing (that's not surprising at all). I'm surprised that he's experiences any consequences for his crimes whatsoever.
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Daddies not around to bail him out this time.
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Cosmonaut Zero wrote:
Catching a white-collar criminal AFTER we elect him president is what passes for good news these days.

I'm surprised. Not because Trump did thing (that's not surprising at all). I'm surprised that he's experiences any consequences for his crimes whatsoever.


It's the old 'enough rope to hang himself' dilemma.

He apparently had no idea there would be nearly this much scrutiny once he was actually a public figure, so he wouldn't or couldn't stop his bad behavior.
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The settlement aims to negate Trump family members from being able to sit on boards of other charitable NY institutions. Because, you know, that would be like giving the wolf the keys to the hen house.

The instant Trump starts talking about the Clinton Foundation, he should be shown this news article, and laughed at.

Not even saying that Clinton may have not been involved in pay to play, or quid pro quo. But Trump highlighting that is the ultimate in hypocrisy.
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Cosmonaut Zero wrote:
I'm surprised that he's experiences any consequences for his crimes whatsoever.

Expect the Kushner Foubdation to startup soon
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windsagio wrote:
Cosmonaut Zero wrote:
Catching a white-collar criminal AFTER we elect him president is what passes for good news these days.

I'm surprised. Not because Trump did thing (that's not surprising at all). I'm surprised that he's experiences any consequences for his crimes whatsoever.


It's the old 'enough rope to hang himself' dilemma.

He apparently had no idea there would be nearly this much scrutiny once he was actually a public figure, so he wouldn't or couldn't stop his bad behavior.


He probably just figured he could buy his way out of it, as per usual.
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I don't think this will come as a surprise to anyone.

I'm sure Claude Rains would be shocked.
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windsagio wrote:
Cosmonaut Zero wrote:
Catching a white-collar criminal AFTER we elect him president is what passes for good news these days.

I'm surprised. Not because Trump did thing (that's not surprising at all). I'm surprised that he's experiences any consequences for his crimes whatsoever.


It's the old 'enough rope to hang himself' dilemma.

He apparently had no idea there would be nearly this much scrutiny once he was actually a public figure, so he wouldn't or couldn't stop his bad behavior.


Yea, basically this. He never expected to even win the Presidency. He was using the campaign, to pump up his brand name, in hopes of getting the Tower in Moscow, or Trump TV, or his next money-making endeavor. He never expected, nor wanted, this level of scrutiny. But sadly for him, that is what one gets, when they become a federal employee, and not just any employee, but Employee #1. He withheld his taxes for two simple reasons, I am willing to bet; they demonstrate that he is not as rich as he claims, and they demonstrate an allegiance, and attraction, to Russian (and perhaps other foreign) money, that would raise eyebrows, if revealed. It never helped the situation, when he bullies and insults people (namely the press), which has the power to investigate him. And stupidly, he also brought this upon himself, by doing things that were NOT recommended by adults in the room (firing Comey comes to mind).

But it's going to get worse, before it gets better, and like Nixon, Repubs may not break with him until something happens that clearly, and loudly, demonstrates his corruption. But at that point, they will drop him like a ton of bricks. Then he will be on his own. And as Trump has already demonstrated, he is not too bright, and a bit too think-skinned, for what is surely coming. At minimum, it will be an end to support, as the President, at maximum, it will mean indictments waiting for him, when he leaves office. Indictments that may represent themselves with the prospects of some serious jail time, in his future.
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windsagio wrote:
Cosmonaut Zero wrote:
Catching a white-collar criminal AFTER we elect him president is what passes for good news these days.

I'm surprised. Not because Trump did thing (that's not surprising at all). I'm surprised that he's experiences any consequences for his crimes whatsoever.


It's the old 'enough rope to hang himself' dilemma.

He apparently had no idea there would be nearly this much scrutiny once he was actually a public figure, so he wouldn't or couldn't stop his bad behavior.


I think it was more that he thought he could make it go away. It's clear he has little, if any knowledge of civics and the law. He probably honestly thought being President would allow him to ignore this and tell people not to investigate himself. That's what I'll always believe.
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Cosmonaut Zero wrote:
I'm surprised that he's experiences any consequences for his crimes whatsoever.

Expect the Kushner Foubdation to startup soon

IIRC, further motions are to fine the principals, recover taxes*, and ban the Trumps from being officers in any NY corporation.

*NY state taxes, since it's the NY AG's case--which also makes it ineligible for a Presidential pardon.

Other sources are better at the individual offenses.
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I feel like the Trump Foundation corruption and the Russian Collusion (among other crimes) were all plainly obvious before the election even happened. And yet he still won. Incredible.
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TheGrimReeple wrote:
AdrianPHague wrote:
I don't think this will come as a surprise to anyone.

I'm sure Claude Rains would be shocked.

Now there's a figure known for his transparency.
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General Snafu wrote:
TheGrimReeple wrote:
AdrianPHague wrote:
I don't think this will come as a surprise to anyone.

I'm sure Claude Rains would be shocked.

Now there's a figure known for his transparency.


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WetRock wrote:
windsagio wrote:
Cosmonaut Zero wrote:
Catching a white-collar criminal AFTER we elect him president is what passes for good news these days.

I'm surprised. Not because Trump did thing (that's not surprising at all). I'm surprised that he's experiences any consequences for his crimes whatsoever.


It's the old 'enough rope to hang himself' dilemma.

He apparently had no idea there would be nearly this much scrutiny once he was actually a public figure, so he wouldn't or couldn't stop his bad behavior.


I think it was more that he thought he could make it go away. It's clear he has little, if any knowledge of civics and the law. He probably honestly thought being President would allow him to ignore this and tell people not to investigate himself. That's what I'll always believe.


I think you're right, because (from what we know) He's tried exactly that... several times.
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I was listening to NPR on this and someone pointed out that this settlement agreement essentially states that neither Trump nor any of his adult children have the necessary moral standing to serve on the board of a little league.
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I was listening to NPR on this and someone pointed out that this settlement agreement essentially states that neither Trump nor any of his adult children have the necessary moral standing to serve on the board of a little league.


We all knew that beforehand. Nice to have an official document that codifies it
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remember the good old days when people were all "at least Trump didn't steal from a charitable foundation" when it was already clear that A) he did and B) Hillary didn't
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Weirdly enough I couldn't find anything about this on foxnews.com at all
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Just losing the right to sit on foundations is punishment enough. They shouldn't be fined or go to jail like those who are poor or a minority. They've suffered enough!
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The Trump lawyer isnt lieing when he says they wanted to do this two years ago. That's how you bury evidence.

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Fake News. The Clinton Foundation killed puppies.


Personally I'm waiting for the revelation that Hillary orchestrated the entire Trump campaign and has actually been ruling from behind the curtains the whole time, with everything Trump did merely being a liberal false flag to make good, patriotic Republicans look bad.
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The Trump lawyer isnt lieing when he says they wanted to do this two years ago. That's how you bury evidence.



The Trump Administration in a nutshell: Too lazy to avoid self-incrimination.
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