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Replying to this post Re: Which users have left taking all of their contributions?, I wrote, "Kudos if you did."

And it got zapped. Seriously??

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Re: Are you fucking serious?
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Replying to this post Re: Which users have left taking all of their contributions?, I wrote, "Kudos if you did."
Yeah, slamming another user, even if you’re just expressing happiness that they’re gone, will get you moderated. That’s been true forever.

I’ll let you guess how I know this. whistle
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The only reason I use this website is because it is an incredible game database. The moderation is ridiculous. The judgment employed by "it" is terrible.

I don't post valuable content here anymore, as a form of "civil disobedience." Previously, the moderators removed all of my session reports after I employed a form of "civil disobedience". The majority of them were removed without notification. It was over 900,000 words of content. If you check my profile, you will see that I am a golden session reporter, but if you check my content, you will see that I have no session reports. I have saved all of the correspondence between myself and Matthew.

I have been suspended in the past for alleged "passive aggressive" posts, not personal attacks. This site promotes passive-aggressive behavior through its moderation policies, possibly an unintended consequence.

I refrain from important discussions because I employ my own critical thinking, which many users cannot tolerate without taking offense. In my opinion, this causes the discussion on this site to be superficial, one-sided, self-reinforcing and sycophantic.

BTW, I wrote an article many years ago titled, "One of the best writers on BGG has left the building". You probably recall that Pat.

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The only reason I use this website is because it is an incredible game database. The moderation is ridiculous. The judgment employed by "it" is terrible.

I don't post valuable content here anymore, as a form of "civil disobedience." Previously, the moderators removed all of my session reports after I employed a form of "civil disobedience". The majority of them were removed without notification. It was over 900,000 words of content. If you check my profile, you will see that I am a golden session reporter, but if you check my content, you will see that I have no session reports. I have saved all of the correspondence between myself and Matthew.

I have been suspended in the past for alleged "passive aggressive" posts, not personal attacks. This site promotes passive-aggressive behavior through its moderation policies, possibly an unintended consequence.

I refrain from important discussions because I employ my own critical thinking, which many users cannot tolerate without taking offense. In my opinion, this causes the discussion on this site to be superficial, one-sided, self-reinforcing and sycophantic.

BTW, I wrote an article many years ago titled, "One of the best writers on BGG has left the building". You probably recall that Pat.

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ermj1986 wrote:
The only reason I use this website is because it is an incredible game database. The moderation is ridiculous. The judgment employed by "it" is terrible.

I don't post valuable content here anymore, as a form of "civil disobedience." Previously, the moderators removed all of my session reports after I employed a form of "civil disobedience". The majority of them were removed without notification. It was over 900,000 words of content. If you check my profile, you will see that I am a golden session reporter, but if you check my content, you will see that I have no session reports. I have saved all of the correspondence between myself and Matthew.

I have been suspended in the past for alleged "passive aggressive" posts, not personal attacks. This site promotes passive-aggressive behavior through its moderation policies, possibly an unintended consequence.

I refrain from important discussions because I employ my own critical thinking, which many users cannot tolerate without taking offense. In my opinion, this causes the discussion on this site to be superficial, one-sided, self-reinforcing and sycophantic.

BTW, I wrote an article many years ago titled, "One of the best writers on BGG has left the building". You probably recall that Pat.

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Well then, it's a good thing you don't go out of your way to complain about it in random complaint threads.
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Re: Are you fucking serious?
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Replying to this post Re: Which users have left taking all of their contributions?, I wrote, "Kudos if you did."

And it got zapped. Seriously??

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Look at it this way. If this site is intended to contain useful info about games, and most contributions here are useful info about games, then most users that leave and delete all their content are removing at least some useful info.

That means the site is less valuable, or at least that it is moving further away from its goal of having game info. That is bad.

With your post, you are encouraging such actions, and implying that people should hurt the site. It isn't such a large leap of logic to see that the site operators do not appreciate people who advocate for hurting the site.
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It’s simpler than that. Letting people snipe at each other and make meanspirited comments leads to a toxic environment and will make BGG an unfriendly place to visit. So they shut that type of thing down.

Congratulating someone for driving a user away is just rude and obnoxious (speaking as someone who got moderated for something just like that). It’s the type of thing they should be stomping on.
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Interesting. Taking credit for driving someone away does NOT get you moderated, but praising that does.
Because saying you might be the reason someone left isn’t inherently negative. It might be that you feel bad/guilty for having driven them off.

Cheering that someone left, or that someone drove them away, is unequivocally negative. There’s no way to read that other than that you didn’t like the person who left.
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Replying to this post Re: Which users have left taking all of their contributions?, I wrote, "Kudos if you did."

And it got zapped. Seriously??

Subject: User Moderation
Personal attack in https://boardgamegeek.com/article/30979737#30979737


When you step outside of RSP, you have to remember to put your pants back on.
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zuludawn wrote:
Replying to this post Re: Which users have left taking all of their contributions?, I wrote, "Kudos if you did."

And it got zapped. Seriously??

Subject: User Moderation
Personal attack in https://boardgamegeek.com/article/30979737#30979737


When you step outside of RSP, you have to remember to put your pants back on.

 
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Luckily you remember what you wrote.

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It’s simpler than that. Letting people snipe at each other and make meanspirited comments leads to a toxic environment and will make BGG an unfriendly place to visit.
You mean comments like Desiree's and Grant's up there?

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Thunkd wrote:
It’s simpler than that. Letting people snipe at each other and make meanspirited comments leads to a toxic environment and will make BGG an unfriendly place to visit.
You mean comments like Desiree's and Grant's up there?
It's clear that there's some level of snark allowed. As someone who's snarky on a regular basis, I enjoy that some level of it is allowed. There's always going to be a question about where the line should be drawn. Why they drew that line at cheering someone leaving but allow other comments, I can't say. I suspect there's some level where they think it goes from casual banter to outright hostility and that's what they want to stop.

From personal experience I know that saying something like those comments above tends to be allowed, but cheering that someone has been banned is moderated. Maybe you're right that the line should be moved even further in the direction of reducing snark.
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Thunkd wrote:
It’s simpler than that. Letting people snipe at each other and make meanspirited comments leads to a toxic environment and will make BGG an unfriendly place to visit.
You mean comments like Desiree's and Grant's up there?

Pete (hopes by the time others read this those will have been edited and this won't make sense)

If you ask me (you didn't), your equating of my mild snark to celebrating the banning of another user is a worse offense than my mild snark. Apples and oranges, man.
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plezercruz wrote:
Thunkd wrote:
It’s simpler than that. Letting people snipe at each other and make meanspirited comments leads to a toxic environment and will make BGG an unfriendly place to visit.
You mean comments like Desiree's and Grant's up there?
It's clear that there's some level of snark allowed. As someone who's snarky on a regular basis, I enjoy that some level of it is allowed. There's always going to be a question about where the line should be drawn. Why they drew that line at cheering someone leaving but allow other comments, I can't say. I suspect there's some level where they think it goes from casual banter to outright hostility and that's what they want to stop.

From personal experience I know that saying something like those comments above tends to be allowed, but cheering that someone has been banned is moderated. Maybe you're right that the line should be moved even further in the direction of reducing snark.
My sensibilities are somewhere between Grant's comment (which I find a bit aggressive) and Desiree's (which I think is simply rude).

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I don't post valuable content here anymore, as a form of "civil disobedience." Previously, the moderators removed all of my session reports after I employed a form of "civil disobedience".


I find that hard to believe. They almost never nuke content without cause. This was especially true before the "nuke offending posts" policy was in place.
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I don't post valuable content here anymore, as a form of "civil disobedience." Previously, the moderators removed all of my session reports after I employed a form of "civil disobedience".


I find that hard to believe. They almost never nuke content without cause. This was especially true before the "nuke offending posts" policy was in place.


I had to go back into my records to figure out what this was in reference to.

In this case it was because his "form of civil disobedience" was to edit his session reports to delete all the content and replace it with a link promoting another site.

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ermj1986 wrote:


I don't post valuable content here anymore, as a form of "civil disobedience." Previously, the moderators removed all of my session reports after I employed a form of "civil disobedience".


I find that hard to believe. They almost never nuke content without cause. This was especially true before the "nuke offending posts" policy was in place.


I had to go back into my records to figure out what this was in reference to.

In this case it was because his "form of civil disobedience" was to edit his session reports to delete all the content and replace it with a link promoting another site.


That's amazing. I think that makes "Previously, the moderators removed all of my session reports after I employed a form of "civil disobedience" the single most disingenuous sentence I've read on BGG. And there has been some stiff competition.
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That's amazing. I think that makes "Previously, the moderators removed all of my session reports after I employed a form of "civil disobedience" the single most disingenuous sentence I've read on BGG. And there has been some stiff competition.


Yeah, but given the context, it pretty much *had* to be something like that.
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Thunkd wrote:
It’s simpler than that. Letting people snipe at each other and make meanspirited comments leads to a toxic environment and will make BGG an unfriendly place to visit.
You mean comments like Desiree's and Grant's up there?

Pete (hopes by the time others read this those will have been edited and this won't make sense)


Yeah, like that'll happen - the other ongoing complaint thread proves that they are both on the "right side" of the very biased moderation here and don't need to hold back like everyone else does.
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plezercruz wrote:
Thunkd wrote:
It’s simpler than that. Letting people snipe at each other and make meanspirited comments leads to a toxic environment and will make BGG an unfriendly place to visit.
You mean comments like Desiree's and Grant's up there?

Pete (hopes by the time others read this those will have been edited and this won't make sense)


Yeah, like that'll happen - the other ongoing complaint thread proves that they are both on the "right side" of the very biased moderation here and don't need to hold back like everyone else does.
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I don't post valuable content here anymore, as a form of "civil disobedience." Previously, the moderators removed all of my session reports after I employed a form of "civil disobedience".


I find that hard to believe. They almost never nuke content without cause. This was especially true before the "nuke offending posts" policy was in place.


I had to go back into my records to figure out what this was in reference to.

In this case it was because his "form of civil disobedience" was to edit his session reports to delete all the content and replace it with a link promoting another site.

Ah.

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Thunkd wrote:
It’s simpler than that. Letting people snipe at each other and make meanspirited comments leads to a toxic environment and will make BGG an unfriendly place to visit.
You mean comments like Desiree's and Grant's up there?

Pete (hopes by the time others read this those will have been edited and this won't make sense)

tbh, I figured mine would have red x'ed and/or nuked by a mod by now but still, it needed to be said. so, um... why haven't you red x'ed it yet?
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motoyugota wrote:
plezercruz wrote:
Thunkd wrote:
It’s simpler than that. Letting people snipe at each other and make meanspirited comments leads to a toxic environment and will make BGG an unfriendly place to visit.
You mean comments like Desiree's and Grant's up there?

Pete (hopes by the time others read this those will have been edited and this won't make sense)


Yeah, like that'll happen - the other ongoing complaint thread proves that they are both on the "right side" of the very biased moderation here and don't need to hold back like everyone else does.
as if I've never been moderated


Never said that - it just takes a lot more for you and those on "your side" to get moderated than others, and your comments on that thread and your comment here prove that. "Want a cookie?" the way you said it is most definitely disruptive, insulting, and adds literally nothing to the conversation, yet here it remains, even after Octavian has read the thread.
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