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Subject: Where did Maps 9-10-11 come from? rss

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I haven't been into my Squad Leader boxes in YEARS. After a recent move and reorganizing into a new "game room" (a large bedroom we don't need as a guest room), I've been trying to organize things that haven't been organized in, at times, decades. I've been coming across several situations where we were evidently coming back to something soon, but never did, so whatever was being used together stayed that way.

OK, so this is how we get to Squad Leader, which had various map sections in all four of the SL and three gamette boxes. BGG was helpful in convincing me that maps 1-4 are the original game. Map 5 is Cross of Iron, Maps 6-7 are Crescendo of Doom, and ...

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there are maps 8, 12, 13, 14, and 15 in GI Anvil of Victory.

I have maps 9, 10, 11. Does anyone know where in the heck THEY came from? LOL

Did Avalon Hill sell us just a set of expansion maps and scenarios at some point which weren't part of a gamette?
 
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This thread seems to list both SL and ASL maps: ASL Mapboard Publication List
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Thanks for the link. That just confused me more. LOL

It seems to list product sources for 9, 10, and 11 that I'm sure I never bought.
 
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Do you mean that off-color maps? They were an abandoned set by AH. They made a limited run which were available via special order. There were no official scenarios written using them.
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plloyd1010 wrote:
Do you mean that off-color maps? They were an abandoned set by AH. They made a limited run which were available via special order. There were no official scenarios written using them.
That seems right. I just pulled them out and compared, and the colors on those maps look much deeper than other SL maps. I'd been a subscriber to The General for a good while, so I'm going to guess maybe I saw an ad in it and ordered them. I ought to dig out my old Generals and see if I can find a place where I clipped out an order form. :-)

Thank you!
 
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They are from the Rogue Scenarios. The original boards used psychedelic colors that were at best seizure inducing. Later editions of the boards used standard colors. The ASL boards had minor modifications, like the inclusion of a path and the removal of stair-well symbols. Avalon Hill didn't consider them 'standard' and did not use them in 'official' scenarios.
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My guess is that it's the other way around. The boards came out first, then someone created scenarios since they were in existence. The colors on the boards aren't bad. The colors are just deeper greens and browns, for example. Later today when I get a chance I'll post a picture of them with 8 and 12 on each side to compare.
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Vranger wrote:
My guess is that it's the other way around. The boards came out first, then someone created scenarios since they were in existence. The colors on the boards aren't bad. The colors are just deeper greens and browns, for example. Later today when I get a chance I'll post a picture of them with 8 and 12 on each side to compare.
That is what I remember. I think inception was concurrent, but when the boards were dropped, scenario development ceased. When the boards were released, I think the scenarios were hastily cleaned up and released afterward. I think only like 6 months later?
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Scenarios J, K and N, which were released in the General, all use board 10.

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tanik wrote:

Scenarios J, K and N, which were released in the General, all use board 10.

I've got some extra scenario pages in my Anvil of Victory box, which may be just what you're referring to. I'll check that.
 
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tanik wrote:

Scenarios J, K and N, which were released in the General, all use board 10.

Ha! never say 'never'. : )
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Vranger wrote:
tanik wrote:

Scenarios J, K and N, which were released in the General, all use board 10.

I've got some extra scenario pages in my Anvil of Victory box, which may be just what you're referring to. I'll check that.
I have those if anyone is interested.

 
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I like board 9. And just because this a good excuse to do so, here it is in its 3D glory at work in scenario 212, one of those Scott-forementioned releases.





Great scenario!



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You could buy them by mail starting in Dec/Nov 79. The General Volume 16 # 4 ran an ad on page 34.

More ads followed, but that was the first one I found.
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