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https://www.covdio.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/CCHFinalIn...

Sounds like they were pretty thorough in what they researched and it boils down to this:

The kids did nothing wrong.

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https://www.covdio.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/CCHFinalIn...

Sounds like they were pretty thorough in what they researched and it boils down to this:

The kids did nothing wrong.
Or, the church employed an agency, bona fides unknown, to investigate the people paying that agency. Who spoke to the church people but not anyone else - they declined to participate, reasons unknown (perhaps they smelled whitewash). And drew conclusions that the only people they had spoken to did nothing wrong based on their evidence. And some videos whose source also declined to participate.

I don't know what happened. But as a thorough investigation by a neutral party it isn't.
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https://www.covdio.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/CCHFinalIn...

Sounds like they were pretty thorough in what they researched and it boils down to this:

The kids did nothing wrong.

Wow a report commissioned by the school finds that the school and students did nothing wrong.




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https://www.covdio.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/CCHFinalIn...

Sounds like they were pretty thorough in what they researched and it boils down to this:

The kids did nothing wrong.

Hmmm. I'm troubled by a couple of things:

1) This was completed awfully quickly. Both in terms of total time elapsed and man-hours invested.

2) The report doesn't seem to speak to all of the available evidence. I recall watching video of some of the students "getting into it" verbally with one of the other Native Americans that included some problematic language and choices. The report appears to be very limited in the videos it considered.

3) Some of the report doesn't seem to jibe with the video that they said they did review. I recall the exchange with the Black Hebrew Israelites including two-way insults, though I'd honestly have to go back and look. Are they suggesting that those didn't come from the students? Are they ignoring it?

4) The consistency of the stories isn't really persuasive. Our minds are incredibly adept at taking what we see and hear and incorporating it into our own memories. Given the amount of news coverage that this got (and, presumably, the interest the students and chaperones would have in the coverage), inconsistencies would be more surprising to me.

So it's possible that they did nothing wrong, sure. But I don't think this report is the one to really demonstrate that. Moreover, I'd expect an independent report to include more useful commentary like "The school should consider instructing chaperones to move students away from sources of conflict such as the Black Hebrew Israelites..."

This just reads as something hasty/sloppy and I think they may end up regret releasing it.
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Wow a report commissioned by the school finds that the school and students did nothing wrong.
Without making a personal judgment on the students, that any adult could be so unworldly as be impressed that an organization investigated itself and found itself blameless leaves me not quite knowing what to say.
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Since January 22, we have devoted approximately 240 man hours in the investigation to date
If that makes you an expert, RSP has got that way beat! We've got a 20-page analysis of exactly what happened:

"MAGA-Hatted Teens Harass Native Americans at the Indigenous Peoples March in D.C."
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https://www.covdio.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/CCHFinalIn...

Sounds like they were pretty thorough in what they researched and it boils down to this:

The kids did nothing wrong.

You forgot the green font...
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Here's the link in case anyone cares.

http://www.cincinnatiinvestigations.com/
 
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So a fairly new (late last year) poster to the site claims to be a "liberal" but spouts bogus conservative tropes including trying to sell the merits of realclearpolitics.com, the conservative-pretending-not-to-be website pushed in a big way by the banned Sgt Hulka.

Right.

But it's the failure to understand the role of the paragraph in communication that's the real sin here.
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Incidentally from the conclusion of the report: "remarkable consistency between statements obtained from chaperones and students".

You know when remarkable consistency of reports from a confused situation usually happens? When those making those reports colluded.
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Since January 22, we have devoted approximately 240 man hours in the investigation to date
If that makes you an expert, RSP has got that way beat! We've got a 20-page analysis of exactly what happened:

"MAGA-Hatted Teens Harass Native Americans at the Indigenous Peoples March in D.C."
Oh yeah, THAT has no bias whatsoever!
 
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okiedokie wrote:


https://www.covdio.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/CCHFinalIn...

Sounds like they were pretty thorough in what they researched and it boils down to this:

The kids did nothing wrong.

Some of those young men harassed women's marchers and that was wrong.
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So a fairly new (late last year) poster to the site claims to be a "liberal" but spouts bogus conservative tropes including trying to sell the merits of realclearpolitics.com, the conservative-pretending-not-to-be website pushed in a big way by the banned Sgt Hulka.
Yanno, I'm too lazy to go looking, but that whole paragraph beyond Covington apologia seems very familiar to something Hulka himself posted early on.
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Huh, I missed some ban-worthy commentary. Anyway...



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The Washington Post reports Wednesday that a team of Cincinnati private investigators spent hundreds of hours reviewing footage and interviewing witnesses before concluding that there was no evidence that there were “racist or offensive statements by students to Mr. Phillips.” They did not, however, speak to Nathan Phillips or Nicholas Sandmann, the two people featured most prominently in the encounter.
Like a page out of the Brett Kavanaugh "investigation".
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Looks like someone tried to sockpuppet their way around their ban.
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Looks like someone tried to sockpuppet their way around their ban.
Someone did it so badly that we could all pretty much name who it was.
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LolaGranola wrote:
Looks like someone tried to sockpuppet their way around their ban.
Someone did it so badly that we could all pretty much name who it was.
I couldn't, was all 'used banned' by the time I saw it...
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