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Subject: Mat Werewolf online game over: Evil wins in a final two player ending. Good game all! rss

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Re: Mat Werewolf online D4
And I'm not interested into lynching there today.
 
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I was supposed to die at Dawn of D5.
 
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Re: Mat Werewolf online D4
Farren wrote:
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Cassandra Project wrote:
VOTE TALLY

Player (11/17) - # - Voted by

kuchick - 3 - PaperF(1), Irina_Phoenix(4), acox89(7)
Syntax3rror - 3 - RoyalApe(5), Beowulf(6), Farren(8)
RoyalApe - 2 - BerenCamlost(2), Syntax3rror(3)

Not Voting: dejojam1, kuchick, whirlingdervish


Nightfall votes are denoted by an '*' after the player's name.

Your Moderator has chosen to use the Longest Held Last Vote method for a tiebreaker - This is just for Cassandra system, and there may be a different tiebreaker specified by your Moderator in the ruleset.

Lynch time is at 4:00 PM BGG
Night Action deadline is at 5:00 PM BGG

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INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

acox89 - 1 - kuchick(7)
Beowulf - 1 - Syntax3rror(6)
BerenCamlost - 1 - RoyalApe(2)
Farren - 1 - Syntax3rror(8)
Irina_Phoenix - 1 - kuchick(4)
PaperF - 1 - kuchick(1)
RoyalApe - 1 - Syntax3rror(5)
Syntax3rror - 1 - RoyalApe(3)

Not Voting: dejojam1, kuchick, whirlingdervish
This is a really interesting tally, it probably makes me think there's one wolf in Royal/Farren and one in Irina/acox.

Why that distribution? One busser / one non-busser?

Is more likely, but, I think that this game can't be that easy.
 
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Re: Mat Werewolf online D4
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What if the real aux!Dragon is claiming Villager so wolf!Dejo can coast on the claim?
It would require that the both of them are knowledgeable, and how would that be likely?
 
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What if the real aux!Dragon is claiming Villager so wolf!Dejo can coast on the claim?
It would require that the both of them are knowledgeable, and how would that be likely?

No it wouldn't. It would require wolf!Dejo claiming Dragon, and the real aux!Dragon going "hmm, they're claiming my role, so they're probably a wolf, so I'm not going to counter."
 
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Re: Mat Werewolf online D4

Player D1 D2 D3 D4 D5
annab: Villager $ Wolf X Cultist $ Pirate * Pirate *
Beowulf: Villager * Cultist $ Wolf $ Villager $ Hunter *
Beren: Villager $ Witch $ (!) Villager $ Witch $ ?
Dake: Cultist X Seer * Seer * Seer * Seer *
dejojam: Dragon * Villager $ Dragon * Villager * ?
Farren: Villager * Cultist X Wolf X Hunter * Wolf X
Irina: Bodyguard * Villager X Witch $ Dragon * ?
kuchick: Villager X Hunter * Hunter * Cultist $ Wolf $
majai/acox: Villager X Dragon * Wolf * Villager $ ?
RoyalApe: Seer * Villager $ Pirate * Villager X ?
SerWave: Wolf * Bodyguard * Bodyguard * Bodyguard * Bodyguard *
ortho: Cultist $ Pirate * Villager X Villager X Villager X
PaperF: Seer X (no badge) Villager X Wolf X ?
Rhanddom: Witch $ Villager X Cultist X Cultist X Cultist X
Ryagic: Pirate * Seer X Seer X Seer X Seer X
Syntax: Hunter * Wolf $ Villager * Villager * ?
whirling: Wolf $ Witch $ (!) Villager $ Wolf $ ?
 
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Re: Mat Werewolf online D4
I took Wolf X, and I was the last person to take a badge today. Wolf * was unchosen, if memory serves; we'll know that for sure once Javal posts his list.

Question to everyone: what badge did you take today, and why?
 
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My answer as to why: Given the choices (Wolf *, Wolf X) and the gamestate, there's no reason to take "use non-existent role abilities" over "extra vote power."
 
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Re: Mat Werewolf online D4
Irina/Beren are very likely to NOT be wolves together.
 
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Re: Mat Werewolf online D4
BerenCamlost wrote:
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To be honest, I feel pretty lazy.

I would have lynched this with fire.

I am too tired but I swear he's said this as evil before.

If I'm wrong I will retract.
Hmmm, I have said this only as good, pal.
 
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Royal, talk to me a bit more about your Beren read. I think I already asked this, but if I did, ignore. After Beren, I plan to ISO you next.
 
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Whirling/Beren- MAYBE not wolvea together.
 
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Re: Mat Werewolf online D4
PaperF wrote:
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PaperF wrote:
To be honest, I feel pretty lazy.

I would have lynched this with fire.

I am too tired but I swear he's said this as evil before.

If I'm wrong I will retract.
Hmmm, I have said this only as good, pal.

PaperF wrote:
I could just switch to my aggressive mode, but I feel lazy today. Boom, boom. Tonight Ill do that homework.

https://cassandrawerewolf.com/game/1908278

You were a wolf and you lived to the end of the game and won.
 
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(But damn did I have to go far back to find that. Paper actually hasn't typed the word "lazy" as evil since January 2018.)
 
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I'm so lazy to remember that! But yeah, I tend to not use it, and as evil, I try to sound more good than when I'm good. The word lazy is a more honest response from me, and as evil, I struggle.
 
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Re: Mat Werewolf online D4
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I took Wolf X, and I was the last person to take a badge today. Wolf * was unchosen, if memory serves; we'll know that for sure once Javal posts his list.

Question to everyone: what badge did you take today, and why?
Villager X. I'm a potential mislynch, so having two votes to save myself helps! You could see it from both perspectives, so is something neutral.
 
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Re: Mat Werewolf online D4
whirlingdervish wrote:
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What if the real aux!Dragon is claiming Villager so wolf!Dejo can coast on the claim?
It would require that the both of them are knowledgeable, and how would that be likely?

No it wouldn't. It would require wolf!Dejo claiming Dragon, and the real aux!Dragon going "hmm, they're claiming my role, so they're probably a wolf, so I'm not going to counter."
Based on dejo picking the dragon badge twice, I don't think is the case here. Well, I'm not evil, so I have no idea how evils are working with the badges and all that stuff.

What can a dragon do in this game? And Pirate, Witch?
 
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Villager $. I've taken an income mat every day, because I don't have a role action (so don't need a *) and I like items - they give me something to do.
 
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Re: Mat Werewolf online D4
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Yeah I think Irina's evil. Kuchick is still very much a ? I was hoping she'd have more to say in this time.
Why is Irina evil to you?
 
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Re: Mat Werewolf online D4
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I think Paper sounded a bit better recently, and I'm worried I'm tunneling, so while I still think there's a good chance he's evil, I think I should probably back off a bit.

Syntax, I don't remember anything notable from you in terms of reads and such. Where are you at on the game?
This is probably one of your best posts through the game.
 
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whirlingdervish wrote:
PaperF wrote:
whirlingdervish wrote:
What if the real aux!Dragon is claiming Villager so wolf!Dejo can coast on the claim?
It would require that the both of them are knowledgeable, and how would that be likely?

No it wouldn't. It would require wolf!Dejo claiming Dragon, and the real aux!Dragon going "hmm, they're claiming my role, so they're probably a wolf, so I'm not going to counter."
Based on dejo picking the dragon badge twice, I don't think is the case here. Well, I'm not evil, so I have no idea how evils are working with the badges and all that stuff.

What can a dragon do in this game? And Pirate, Witch?

Don't have any idea what the Pirate did - Anna took the Pirate badge and Acox claims he priest-viewed her as evil.

Syntax claims Witch, and said something about brewing antidote, but didn't give specifics (I'm not sure he needs to.)

Dejo claims Dragon. No public claim from her re: powers. I do think you raise a good point about her taking the Dragon mat twice - she's also taken a Villager * mat, which I find interesting.
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Re: Mat Werewolf online D4
dejojam1 wrote:
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dejojam1 wrote:
Irina does not sound great to me.
Why not?

Do you think she does? I think she's missing something here that comes through when she's good.
To be honest, I have no idea how to read Irina. I'm always wrong when I'm reading her, so maybe I"ll start using the Vanders Read Manual for her as well.
 
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No one appears to have gotten to the end of the maze, which lends credence to the theory that the key's out of the game. Sad. Poor Javal.
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Re: Mat Werewolf online D4
dejojam1 wrote:
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Dejo, why is Royal a possible good read to you?

It's hard to explain. I'm comparing him with Poison Wolves, and with uh... Texas Werewolf I think? The one where he was evil with Stone. I think he's pretty different here from that. He's the most tenuous of my good reads.
He sounds a bit similar to the Poisonous Wolves game, and that's the issue. Plus, I don't consider myself a bad Royal reader. I have given him some rope to see what happens but I still have yet to see good Royal.

Genuinely, genuinely, I think he thinks I'm an aux and he's a wolf. I was playing my general evil game for most of D1-D3, and based on that, I think that his approach was weird. He would have asked everybody to lynch me. End of D4 felt like he was ready to let me die and get credit.

I'm not sure if wolf/Royal passes me the antidote to cure me. MAYBE they knew that kuchick was a goner, and if I die as an aux, they will get cornered. I really think that evils think I'm an aux, and that's why they sent the antidote. That's in the case that no one confesses that the person sent the antidote, so I assume it was the wolves who did it.

Edit: him for me.
 
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Re: Mat Werewolf online D4
dejojam1 wrote:
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The list I made of the votes:

Royal sounds informed. Maybe Evil.
Farren sounds informed too. Lean good.
Dejo sounds informed. Lean evil.

Who do I sound informed of?
Based on the votes history, but is nothing anymore. I think Syn is probably good.
 
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