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If you claim to be an environmentalist (I am not, I am a conservationist) what are you personally doing about it?

Car:
We own a hybrid.
We do not drive over 65 mph in 65 mph zones often, or over 55 mph in those zones.
We use a fuel additive to extend the mileage per tank.
We will buy a hydrogen car as soon as becomes available and the infrastructure is there to support it.

Home:
A 10th of our fuel costs go to support Wind Power, which we pay extra for.
We use as little air conditioning and heat as we can get away with and still be comfortable. (We do this in hotels as well.)
We are in the process of negotiating for a solar powered water-heating system for the house. By late 2008 it should be up and running.
Our eventual goal is a Zero-Net-Energy home, which produces enough for its own needs and provides some to the local grid.

Environmental Footprint:
We own 27 acres of mostly woodland property which we will never develop. The goal is to build it up as a nature preserve and leave it to a conservationist group.
I donate a 10th of my income to the Nature Conservancy, which buys land for nature preserves and keeps humans off of it. When my novel sells, a chunk of the profits will go to them.
My GF donates to a myriad of environmental causes.

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Are we competing?

I have a masters degree in International Environmental Policy.

I moved to China expressly to help the country pursue Sustainable Development.

I walk or ride a bike *everywhere* - no car, not even hybrid (which has a huge resource impact when it's made you know).

I recycle everything I can.

I council others on green behavior.

Whether one chooses to acknowledge it or not, by the very virtue of living in America you have the largest footprint of any citizen on Earth.

A zero-net-energy home would be a wonderful accomplishment, by all means do your best to achieve that goal!
 
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No, we are not competing.
It is just that there are a lot of people 'round here who can talk a good game, pointing out the problems and the like. I just wanted to see what they do as individuals to help. Or do they just point at the motes in others' eyes? Or expect someone else, or the government, to do it for them. Very rarely do I quote Michael Jackson, but sometimes "you've got to take a look at the man in the mirror."
 
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I walk everywhere, live in a 100+ year old home with the necessary improvements and there's a bunch of antique furniture in it.
 
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I do my part in conserving energy by striving to move as little as possible. Must ... fight ... urge ... to ... sneeze ....
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WhiteKnight85 wrote:
I do my part in conserving energy by striving to move as little as possible. Must ... fight ... urge ... to ... sneeze ....


If you must, be sure to do it on the back of someone else's neck. That way you're conserving moisture, helping them combat dry skin, and giving them a bit of a breeze all in the same go.
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Koldfoot wrote:
Your premise is flawed. Environmentalism is not about environmental conservation.

Environmentalism is about taking money from and hindering progress in free developed countries in order to redistrubute that wealth in poor socialist counties so environmentalists can feel good about themselves.


I concur with your wonderfully worded, if caustically funny thought.
This was the point of my original post. These people are, afterall, better than us.

That Algore, the prophet Goracle, can live in a home that eats up more energy than most Third World countries and be called an environmentalist is absurd. And the people who pointed this out received death threats. That he had wanted to fly a private jet to an "pro-environment" concert is beyond adaucious (its fuel consumption for this flight alone would have allowed a Hummer to go from NYC to LA eight times).

That Barbra Striesand, aka the Whore, wants other people to suffer while she has everyone of her apartments kept at precise, constant temperatures so that when she arrives it is perfect for her highness. That her fur vault uses up almost as much power as Gore's home, well please ignore that fact. You are all little people. Barbra needs her comfort.

That Larry David's wife (he of Seinfeld fame) berates people for their environmental responsibilities at environmental confrences held throughout the world, does not see the irony of taking a private jet everywhere to do that. Well, what do I understand? I'm just a simple boy from Russia.

That the whole Carbon-Trading system is a scam to assuage the hearts and souls of those folks -- the indulgence system of the modern age -- does not seem to resonate. Paying to plant trees or not to develop resources or build power plants does not absolve ANYONE of personal responsibility.

These people only talk the talk, and that wind is not even good for turning a turbine.
 
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Here is one thing I love:
Our Canadian friends have spent the last 60 years mostly not developing their resources. The original reason given was that as the rest of the world starts running out of them, those in Canada will become more and more valuable. They also do not have much of a military. As the United States reaches a certain point of resource necessity, and we will continue to maintain the world's best military, we'll go knocking on the door and say, "hello neighbor" ...
 
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