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Stefan Malz
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The authors of Rococo, Matthias Cramer, Louis Malz and Stefan Malz, have joined forces with Eagle-Gryphon Games to produce Rococo Deluxe
with all new art and graphic design by Ian O'Toole. Rococo Deluxe will be coming to Kickstarter in March of 2020.

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Think its cool its getting reprinted but this quest to call everything deluxe and just pimp a the game a little and new art. Is something i am not in favor for but obviously it works for the board game business.

That said good luck.
P.S really find the original edition very beautiful.
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Wow, this was unexpected.

Hopefully they'll include a score pad in the new version. Handing out point chits (and needing to make change) is really dumb and time-consuming.

Or better yet, they ought to make a points track around the board.
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bykkarn wrote:
Think its cool its getting reprinted but this quest to call everything deluxe and just pimp a the game a little and new art. Is something i am not in favor for but obviously it works for the board game business.

That said good luck.
P.S really find the original edition very beautiful.

Can't hep but agree. I love what EGG, Vital Lacerda and Ian O'Toole have done but I am coming to the limit of how many hugely expensive coffin-sized boxes I am prepared to acquire and keep. Doubtless, of course, this news will be thrilling to many.
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bykkarn wrote:
Think its cool its getting reprinted but this quest to call everything deluxe and just pimp a the game a little and new art. Is something i am not in favor for but obviously it works for the board game business.
Count me as another a player not in favour of this trend—and I'll be voting with my wallet.

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That said good luck.
I do wish the designers every success—I've thoroughly enjoyed every play I've had of Rococo—but I wish they would find it elsewhere than Kickstarter.

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P.S really find the original edition very beautiful.
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Love that this great game is getting the deluxe treatment from EGG!

For those who don’t want a deluxe version, the good news is there will likely be a bunch of OG non-deluxe versions hitting the market once the KS starts fulfilling.
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Trevinsky wrote:
Love that this great game is getting the deluxe treatment from EGG!

For those who don’t want a deluxe version, the good news is there will likely be a bunch of OG non-deluxe versions hitting the market once the KS starts fulfilling.

Yup, those prices should shoot back down soon.

I am curious if they will revisit the decoration and fountain scoring. It may just be me, but I often found those to be very expensive for very little gain.

Either way, I'm picking up the Deluxe Edition.
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As you (may) see in the ad on top of this tread, the current Rococo price is absurdly inflated. Hopefully the deluxe version will decrease the price of those original versions, so that you can buy the old version for a reasonable price.

In regards to the deluxe version, it would be difficult for EGG to change strategies.

On Mars made near 1 million dollars
Struggle of Empires near 150000
Age of Steam 275000
Escape Plan 650000

All of them are deluxe versions...

Vote with your wallet. Thousands of others have voted approving the deluxe versions, and it would be unwise for us to expect the company not to follow the money.
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malzspiele wrote:
(...) with all new art and graphic design by Ian O'Toole.
So, you are calling it "deluxe" while downgrading the art?! Nothing against Ian O'Toole, but replacing Michael Menzel is a huge bummer. thumbsdownthumbsdown
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I am very curious about this. I do love the art fo the original, it's one of the most gorgeous games I own, so Ian O'Toole has got his work cut out for him :) Regardless though, I am a big fan of both artists, I am excited to see how this one will turn out :)
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matfr wrote:
bykkarn wrote:
Think its cool its getting reprinted but this quest to call everything deluxe and just pimp a the game a little and new art. Is something i am not in favor for but obviously it works for the board game business.

That said good luck.
P.S really find the original edition very beautiful.

Can't hep but agree. I love what EGG, Vital Lacerda and Ian O'Toole have done but I am coming to the limit of how many hugely expensive coffin-sized boxes I am prepared to acquire and keep. Doubtless, of course, this news will be thrilling to many.

Also can't hep but agree. With prices inflating, especially at retail, i find myself yearning for slightly plainer productions for more reasonable prices.

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GSReis wrote:
malzspiele wrote:
(...) with all new art and graphic design by Ian O'Toole.
So, you are calling it "deluxe" while downgrading the art?! Nothing against Ian O'Toole, but replacing Michael Menzel is a huge bummer. thumbsdownthumbsdown

Harsch! "I like Ian O'Toole, but..."

It's a new publisher so naturally they have to replace the artwork. That's the least surprising part of this news.
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I would’ve been happier just for a reprint of the Jewelry Box expansion. I’m guessing it will be included in the “deluxe” game, and hope it will be (a) available separately for purchase, and (b) compatible with the first edition.
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Grim_Squeaker wrote:
... (a) available separately for purchase, and (b) compatible with the first edition.

With new art etc, that seems incredibly unlikely.

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I really hope the new edition is not packaged in the traditional EGG coffin box, but that's unlikely given the trend.

I'm out out shelf space & own the original, so this is likely a pass.

Good news that it'll be available for purchase at a reasonable price given that it's currently OOP. I've owned it for years and just started playing it recently & think it's fantastic -- highly recommended!

The only think I can think of improving art-wise is making some of the rooms more distinguishable (especially the row with 2 separate rooms). Other than that, the original artwork and iconography is great.
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Almost bought this many times, so glad I haven't as EGG and Ian O'Toole have been a fantastic match in the past.

100% backing this one!

I am however running out of older games that I want to catch up on, probably a good thing though 😁
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GSReis wrote:
malzspiele wrote:
(...) with all new art and graphic design by Ian O'Toole.
So, you are calling it "deluxe" while downgrading the art?! Nothing against Ian O'Toole, but replacing Michael Menzel is a huge bummer. thumbsdownthumbsdown

This is my concern- O'Toole's art seems very... simplistic.
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That sound you hear is everyone running to the marketplace to sell all of their original copies. laugh
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That sound you hear is everyone running to the marketplace to sell all of their original copies. laugh

Not me... I might BUY an OG copy... my cards are showing wear... but even if I get the Deluxe, I love Menzel's art and won't be selling my original.
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Menzel is board game royalty in my book.
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Menzel is board game royalty in my book.

Agreed! He's one of the two artists that I want every game I see... I have to look closely to make sure it's something I would play as well. (The other one is Agnieszka Dabrowiecka)
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Well, wasn't asking for a deluxe edition - since I don't own the game, might as well get this.
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The point of wanting a reprint is so Rococo becomes more affordable and accessible. Having a deluxified EGG edition does neither, since invariably it’ll probably trend $80+ if it goes KS (which is only slightly less than what it was going for when OOP) and $120+ retail, then there is the fact that most merchants won’t be carrying it. I’m holding out hope for a more reasonable pricing but it’s doubtful.
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Amazingly good news. Autobacker here. I think this is a perfect candidate for the deluxe treatment, Rococo is all about extravagance and luxury, more is more for the grand ball!. I can't wait to see what EGG comes up with to improve the original printing which was very pretty for it's time.
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Art is such a subjective thing, I really see a divide happening now with this game. You'll have some people screaming that they ruined the game by changing artists and others that just don't care. Nothing against O'toole, he is a great artist, but he will really have to knock it out of the park to win over a lot of the people and not have this turn into another Colosseum like situation.

I don't know anything about the situation, but when you have a game that is lauded for it's fantastic art. Why would you change it? I would assume it would be cheaper to acquire a license for the existing art that has already been created than to commission completely new art for a project?
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