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Ralf Christian
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A couple of times we ran into the situation, that a player found a working solution, but the deducted positions were still not correct to the hidden positions from the other player. The only way to avoid this, seems to be to use more attempts, until you are pretty sure, that you found the "real" solution. Otherwise, you would collect quite some minus points, even though you found a working solution. Not so satisfactory, I would say. Anybody had the same experience already? And what are you doing to solve the "problem"? Maybe give less than 5 minus points for the "wrong" positions?
 
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What I think you're talking about: there are ways of constructing the balls so that there is more than one correct solution, i.e. there is no way of differentiating between the possibilities. In this case, we have ruled that to avoid a penalty, the guesser has to come up with all possible solutions; and then their score is divided by the number of possibilities.
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mrraow wrote:
What I think you're talking about: there are ways of constructing the balls so that there is more than one correct solution, i.e. there is no way of differentiating between the possibilities. In this case, we have ruled that to avoid a penalty, the guesser has to come up with all possible solutions; and then their score is divided by the number of possibilities.


This sounds like a great idea. This has always been an inherent flaw of this game, but the massive score reduction in division should make up for the increased difficulty from having multiple possible correct answers.


As a side note, does anyone know if it's possible to get the same scenario with the newfangled hex board?
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What are some of the scenarios on the square board? I always thought the only impossible-to-determine placement was to have four marbles at the corners of a 4x4 box, with the fifth one placed randomly inside the box.

And that the correct answer to that placement was to smack your opponent upside the head and tell them to stop doing that.
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beri wrote:
What are some of the scenarios on the square board? I always thought the only impossible-to-determine placement was to have four marbles at the corners of a 4x4 box, with the fifth one placed randomly inside the box.

And that the correct answer to that placement was to smack your opponent upside the head and tell them to stop doing that.


There's a case of multiple solutions in the solo play rule book which I've just posted here: Spoilers - game 80 has two valid solutions

Personally I think that if it's impossible to distinguish between multiple solutions then any of them should be counted as correct (i.e. if the guesser gives a solution and their opponent can't state a valid ray that disproves the given solution).
 
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