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Nathan Fireborn
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Chessex is comming out with a new version! But when, and what are the changes are they going to make?!
http://www.chessex.com/Games/Games.htm
 
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Robert Cannon
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Re:New Version
fireborn (#44769),

They have been coming out with a new version for years now, and it has yet to appear. Boardgame vaporware. I've stopped waiting...
 
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Re:New Version
fireborn (#44769),


Chessex wouldn't even respond to my e-mail asking for specifics, or even IF the game is still in the pipeline. I wish they would just do the right thing and givve up the copyright so Tom Jolly could shop it around to someone who would do it justice.
 
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Re:New Version
robcannonsoftware wrote:
fireborn (#44769),

They have been coming out with a new version for years now, and it has yet to appear. Boardgame vaporware. I've stopped waiting...


Yes, my local boardgamestore even took in a few copies, advertising them as the new edition. I bought a copy and it proved to be false advertising and I took my copy back, and was promised they would sell me a copy of the new edition as soon as they got it (and I promised to buy it). In the intervening years (2-3?) my boardgamestore has turned into a computer game store (sigh).
 
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Paul Lach
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It is disappointing that the new edition seems to be a dead issue; I was waiting for a long time like everyone else but have stopped the Chessex watch. I really think they lost out on an opportunity with this one.

Anyone have any thoughts as to using the new Dungeon Twister game and some components as a bit of an upgrade to Wiz War? Board components look to be the same size (# of squares, at least). While I don't own Dungeon Twister yet (waiting for the English edition - soon I hope), it looks like it could help a bit with a board upgrade or at least a variation. Still doesn't help with any card update or upgrade but I'm wondering if these two systems could be worked together somehow. Anyway, just a thought....
 
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I suggest making your own version. That's what I did. There's a link to a great website with all the resources in the Links section (here's the link: http://www.jeloba.com/wizwar/ ).
The boards and tokens are pretty easy to make by printing them out on full-page sticky lables, attaching those to cardstock, and slicing with a paper cutter.
The cards can be printed on perforated business card stock or on sticky lables that are then attached to regular playing or MTG cards.
 
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The wait may finally be over soon. I talked to Don at the Chessex Booth in Essen, and to my surprise he presented a mock-up of the 8th edition Wiz-War, with a few sample cards/counters and six double-sided game boards (everything is full-color now). He seemed quite interested in my comments, and told me that there will be a final revision soon, and the game will be ready to go in print.

We all know what "soon" means at Chessex, but I thought I'd share this with you guys to let you know that something is happening.
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Imagine wrote:
The wait may finally be over soon.


Maybe it is too late now that Dungeon Twister is out.
 
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They're very different games.

DT is a tight, tactical Eurogame.

WW is a sloppy, beer & pretzels, take that American game.

The similarity is alsmost entirely thematic.

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shannona wrote:
They're very different games.

DT is a tight, tactical Eurogame.

WW is a sloppy, beer & pretzels, take that American game.

The similarity is alsmost entirely thematic.

Shannon


Wow, have you missed the boat! Wiz-War doesn't threaten your precious Dungeon Twister (which is a fine game), so there is no need to besmirch it. Beer & pretzels, yes; take-that, yes; American, proudly so; but sloppy? You are deranged in your assessment. Try it again with an open mind.
 
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swandive78 wrote:

Wow, have you missed the boat! Wiz-War doesn't threaten your precious Dungeon Twister (which is a fine game), so there is no need to besmirch it. Beer & pretzels, yes; take-that, yes; American, proudly so; but sloppy? You are deranged in your assessment. Try it again with an open mind.


Now who's getting 'precious' about their preference in games!

I don't think that Shannon's description is wrong nor was it meant to be demeaning to Wiz-war in any way.

DT is a completely different beast: it's more like chess. Very ordered, very tactical.

WW is sloppy in a sense that there can be such wild playing of cards. Perhaps more messy than sloppy. But in a good way of course.

I look forward to a reprint. But I have made my own copy in the meantime.
 
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Email response from Chessex regarding my inquiry about a Wiz War reprint:

"I honestly have no update to give you. We are looking into getting it
printed in China. 2007????"

This isn't very promising, but it's something. Wiz War is one of those games I've been interested in for a long time, and I'm kind of on the fence about making my own copy vs. Ebay vs. waiting for a reprint. I do like professional quality. I do not like Ebay prices (very often). Decisions, decisions!
 
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Just buy the damn thing on eBay. If you like beer-and-pretzel games with a great atmosphere and a take-that attitude, and have two or more like-minded people at hand, you will not regret it.

By the time the reprint shows up, you will be playing your copy with your grandkids.
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One of my traditional stops at the Essen fair is the Chessex booth where I harrass Don (owner of Chessex) about the reprint of Wiz-War. I don't ask for a publishing date, as everyone knows that whatever date he tells you, it's not gonna be it.
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What he did tell me, though - and I think that's very interesting - is that Thomas "Dungeoneer" Denmark will be responsible for the new artwork. While I admire his Dungeoneer cards (just not the game mechanics, which is why I sold my decks), I'm wondering if his style isn't too serious for such a crazy game. Unfortunately, Don didn't have any samples to show me... I guess I'll just have to wait till next year - when I'll be back to the Chessex booth at Essen.

Or does anyone seriously believe that Wiz-War will have been reprinted by then?!
 
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Mishenka wrote:
I suggest making your own version. That's what I did. There's a link to a great website with all the resources in the Links section (here's the link: http://www.jeloba.com/wizwar/ ).
The boards and tokens are pretty easy to make by printing them out on full-page sticky lables, attaching those to cardstock, and slicing with a paper cutter.


Thanks for the link, great quality, I like your idea. But what we did was created a variant of the original. We used the larger maps not the early version and made a Mega Wiz War Photo here http://www.boardgamegeek.com/image/174960 we used the original rules with the expansions and had a great time created the game. Wiz War is a game that as long as you can get your hands on it you will have a good time. My wife will even play it with me.
 
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mexilplif wrote:
Thanks for the link, great quality, I like your idea. But what we did was created a variant of the original. We used the larger maps not the early version and made a Mega Wiz War Photo here http://www.boardgamegeek.com/image/174960 we used the original rules with the expansions and had a great time created the game. Wiz War is a game that as long as you can get your hands on it you will have a good time. My wife will even play it with me.


Not be a nag, because I postd this same question in the comments, but that setup rocks. We were thinking of building a similar setup now that we have seen that and were wondering what rules you guys use to handle the extra playing space in the middle and stuff. I have some ideas but would like to know what you guys have already play tested.
 
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