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What ever happened to the good old days when quarterbacks gave up on passing and just made their own damn touchdowns? Bah, humbug.
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MisterCranky wrote:
What ever happened to the good old days when quarterbacks gave up on passing and just made their own damn touchdowns? Bah, humbug.


Big Ben did just that today with the Steelers in their comeback win over Cleveland! A 30 yard rushing TD (and he almost made it two rushing TD's, getting stopped on the 3 yard line later on).
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Why should Peyton risk getting clocked? He had Vinatieri as a backup

Or are you telling us a touchdown would have covered the spread for you?

How much did you lose?
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Look, Stephen, you know I don't bet on football. But it just kills me to see a game go down that particular path. Okay, you had two tries, they failed, and your third and final pass as the clock runs out is an interception? Insult to injury. Run it in....

I wish I'd seen some of the other games...I only watched the Colts lose because there was nothing better on the tube.
 
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MisterCranky wrote:
What ever happened to the good old days when quarterbacks gave up on passing and just made their own damn touchdowns? Bah, humbug.


He retired. You're talking about Steve Young, right?
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No, I am always talking about Roman Gabriel, if I'm talking about quarterbacks. If he had had anything like Steve Young's rushing ability, it would even have made sense.
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MisterCranky wrote:
What ever happened to the good old days when quarterbacks gave up on passing and just made their own damn touchdowns?


He can't as by the time he gets the ball he's too gassed from running up and down the line of scrimmage doing his theatrics.
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MisterCranky wrote:
What ever happened to the good old days when quarterbacks gave up on passing and just made their own damn touchdowns? Bah, humbug.


Hey, manicures aren't cheap nowadays! Dainty!
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Why do teams keep trying to draw the defense offsides when it is obvious to everybody they are trying to draw the defense offsides? I don't recall that tactic ever working. When a tactic is 0 for 5,000 you would think it would be abandoned. In this particular instance the fancy-pants stubbornness of the Colts resulted in the FG attempt being 5 yards longer... and missed as a result.
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Let us not forget Elway's awesome run for the first down in the Super Bowl versus the Packers.
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Yes, Clinton, I was letting that little gem slide--possibly because I am one of the six or seven people left on the planet who don't necessarily recognize when that sort of tactic is being employed. I only care about their last "drive"...you know the one...it occurred as the "we were fabulous in the first half but it was a fluke" Chargers failed to make the down after that "we're the fancy pants stubborn Colts but our star kicker failed to make the easiest yardage+5 field goal ever" regained possession.

I used to watch football back in the days when lots of games seemed interesting and disappointing like this one did. Are those days back? Have they been there all the time?
 
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Steve Grogan: 12 Rushing TDs (1976)

Still the single-season NFL record for a quarterback!
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Csigs wrote:



Steve Grogan: 12 Rushing TDs (1976)

Still the single-season NFL record for a quarterback!


I missed that one...I was only a year old.
 
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Artaxerxes wrote:
In this particular instance the fancy-pants stubbornness of the Colts resulted in the FG attempt being 5 yards longer... and missed as a result.


I don't think this is necessarily a definitive statement. Because of the angles involved the kick from the left hash at the 19 actually gives a larger target than a kick from the 14 left hash. Plus, being both kicks are of a relatively short length the kicker would not have to be figuring distance into his motion and just concentrating on accuracy. So if the kick was going to miss from the 19 the same kick would have missed from the 14.

So the blame goes almost entirely on Vinatieri for simply shanking the kick and not on any "fancy-pants stubbornness". Which I'm sure caused a smirk or two from any Patriot's fans watching.
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Artaxerxes wrote:
Why do teams keep trying to draw the defense offsides when it is obvious to everybody they are trying to draw the defense offsides? I don't recall that tactic ever working. When a tactic is 0 for 5,000 you would think it would be abandoned. In this particular instance the fancy-pants stubbornness of the Colts resulted in the FG attempt being 5 yards longer... and missed as a result.


I've seen the Jets succeed in drawing the opposing defense offsides a couple times this year.

I've seen the Jets do a lot of things this year, but I'm not going to talk about the rest of them.
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Nick Danger wrote:

So the blame goes almost entirely on Vinatieri for simply shanking the kick and not on any "fancy-pants stubbornness". Which I'm sure caused a smirk or two from any Patriot's fans watching.


Does a Patriots fan ever wear any expression other than a smirk? Devil worshipers are like that.
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mistermarino wrote:
Does a Patriots fan ever wear any expression other than a smirk? Devil worshipers are like that.


I used to think the Patriots sold their souls for their success, but now I realize they had none to begin with. Oh snap!
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Because of the angles involved the kick from the left hash at the 19 actually gives a larger target than a kick from the 14 left hash.


Yes, due to the geometry involved, I suppose the "effective" distance between the uprights (from the kicker's position) is greater from the left 19 yard hash mark than it is from the left 14 yard hash mark. I'm sure it's a very small difference, though, which happens to be why I carelessly neglected to mention it. Of greater significance is the fact that a shanked kick (which happens occasionally to even the best kickers, and seems to happen to all of them more often at crucial, pressure-packed moments) is more likely to miss than an equally shanked kick (ie. one having the same angle in relation to a line perpendicular to the uprights of the goal) from five yards closer, whether kicking from a hash mark or not.

By the way, it's easy to test all of this out with a pencil, a ruler, and a sheet of graph paper, if one happens to be as bored as I am today.

 
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Scott Firestone IV wrote:
Let us not forget Elway's awesome run for the first down in the Super Bowl versus the Packers.


On second thought, let's forget it.
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Artaxerxes wrote:

By the way, it's easy to test all of this out with a pencil, a ruler, and a sheet of graph paper, if one happens to be as bored as I am today.


I suppose that it helps to live in The Land of the Giants, too, so that you can easily get graph paper the size of a football field.
 
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