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I received my copy the other day and started to go through the components list for the game.

I have a few questions about number of items and what some items are as I cannot seem to find them in the manual.

1. What are the 4 Black Round wooden cylinders called and used for in the game?

2. Are both Hoplite and Trireme counted as Military Counters?

3. The rules say 60 Military Counters, but between the Hoplite and the Trireme I have a total of 42 Hoplites and 29 Triremes, for a total of 71 Counters.

Am I missing something here?

4. Finally one sheet had a center section punched, but completely unprinted (i.e. a group of all white titles.) Is this correct?

Thank you for any help you can provide.
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1. What are the 4 Black Round wooden cylinders called and used for in the game?

Battle Tokens
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2. Are both Hoplite and Trireme counted as Military Counters?

Yep!
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3. The rules say 60 Military Counters, but between the Hoplite and the Trireme I have a total of 42 Hoplites and 29 Triremes, for a total of 71 Counters.

Am I missing something here?

Since my copy was short of the 60 Military Counters listed in the rules, I contacted FFG and they sent me a list of the cardboard parts. There are 71 total Hoplite and Trireme. So, it appears the rules are incorrect.
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4. Finally one sheet had a center section punched, but completely unprinted (i.e. a group of all white titles.) Is this correct?

Yep!
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1. What are the 4 Black Round wooden cylinders called and used for in the game?


These are the battle tokens. When you hit the target number in a battle you take a battle token. First one to get two wins that segment of the battle. If it is a two part battle (triremes first then hoplites for example) then the player who won the trireme battle would start the hoplite battle with one of the battle tokens giving that player an advantage. Page 5 has the relevant rules.

The pieces are almost unnecessary but do serve as a reminder of the status of the particular battle being fought.
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1. They are called battle tokens. I believe the first mention of them is on page 5, section 6, paragraph 2, right above the picture showing the battle token box.

2. Yes. All hoplites and triremes are military counters.

3. Same here, the rules must be incorrect.

4. Don't remember a blank sheet of tiles in mine, but you aren't missing anything either.
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Thank you for the replies, I am not sure I would have figured it all out.

Thanks again everyone.
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Can I add one to this...

My rulebook states 36 Influence tiles.
I only have 35 in my game...and there was not a sheet that had a punch space for it. So I think that 35 is actually the correct amount.
Am I wrong?
how many do you all have?
I'd like to make sure before my first (learning) game...
 
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It's 36: 31 specific and 5 "Any City"

This player aid lists them all:
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/file/info/23212
 
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IIRC, the count of military counters neglected to include Persia.

http://boardgamegeek.com/article/1446335#1446335
 
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Thanks guys...guess I am missing one
Odd though, that there wasn't even a punch-out for it on any sheet...
I'll have to go and check to confirm this when I can.
Thanks for the info though!
 
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Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh, figured it out.

I am missing one of the Double Athens Influence.

How does this affect gameplay?
I do have a completely white influence-sized token that was punchable...
Could I use that? I understand it wouldn't be hidden...no back to it either.
I don't know enough about the game to know the answer to this. Are the Influence tiles randomnly drawn? If so, I guess the white wouldn't work! laugh

I suppose I could contact FFG for a replacement...they are normally quite excellent in the customer satisfaction department. As well as many other department!
 
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FFG is one of the finest companies to deal with; you will not be disappointed.
 
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Well, I am missing all the orange counters, all but four of the persian army counters (boats only). Many, many Athens counters - the stack out-does the others by nearly double. And a few battles are missing, and doubles of a few, 6 or so, exist. Not sure about influence tiles - not checked that over, but for what I know the conclusion is: I can't play this game. So which is th best address to address this problem too. Martin, himself or FFG? Warfrog games has been great in response for such matters, and I have never asked anything of FFG.

Brass and now Perikles. At least the problem is easily fixable.
I think I am missing one whole tile sheet (sigh, again) but I can't figure which one or two or three. I can see doubles of many things so it is hard to see what is needed and what I do have.
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