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Damien
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I am after some advice. I think this will be a great game but have to wait until my son who is 2 to grow up before I could play it as my wife (and current sole gaming buddy) is unlikely to want to play a "sports" game - won't even mention her thoughts on "brawl" ...
My "local" store is currently taking orders for the game and teams, so should I buy the boxed 3rd Edition game or just some teams - maybe chaos & orks and use the downloadable rules? The living rulebook forum has someone else who feels they don't need to buy the actual game but what do others think?
If I buy the game I'm all set to go with only some painting required. If I buy a couple of teams I will have more work to do and it's slightly more expensive, but I'll have more variety as I plan to use Battle Ball figures as substitutes - it's only me and my son after all ... Any thoughts greatly appreciated - e.g. on what teams are better for beginnings if I went down that route?
 
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you'll need the dice for sure

and the board is good

buy the game in a box
 
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More and more I'm leaning towards the game box is the way to go. As it'll be me and my son we can pretend orks are dwarves and humans are elves if we want to try the other teams.
Now, is the game still available ...
 
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Joseph Cardarelli
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I would recommend buying the game box as well. It comes with a nice plastic ruler and scatter template, thick cardboard player aids and dugouts, along with the dice and board, all excellent quality. Not to mention two complete teams.

It might not be the cheapest game, but teams on their own are pretty 'spensive anyways.
 
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I'd say the box too, you get all you need to play: templates, dice and pitch, which I recon are a must. Then you get 2 teams which are great to start.
 
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Go for the box!
As the other guys say, there´s a lot of stuff needed for the game, besides rules and miniatures.
 
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Matt Tonks
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Yep - you need the boxed game. It has the pitch, dug-outs, balls, templates which would otherwise be hard to get. I'd recommend downloading the latest LRB 5 (Living Rulebook - latest rules).

You do get a complete 12-man plastic team for both the Orcs & Humans as well. While these are perfectly functional & can be used to replace other teams if you only play casually, I prefer playing with the appropriate figures/teams for different races - purely for thematic effects (Humans are a bit tall & thin for a Dwarf, for example!) but also Blood Bowl offers the chance to customise your team(s) if you want extra specialist positions & star players, etc. I now have all 24 or 25 teams currently recognised as available & it's expensive, but personally... I think it's worth it!

You could always start small & build up if it proves a success? Say, buy the boxed game & a couple of other teams for variety, say Dwarves & Chaos or whatever takes your fancy.

Let me know if you need any extra help/advice.

Just noticed you asked which teams are good to begin with - certainly Orcs & Humans. I'd also say Skaven, Dwarves, Chaos & any one of the Elves teams (High Elves, Wood Elves, Dark Elves) would be a good starting point.

Matt...
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Joseph Cardarelli
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tonksey wrote:
... teams (High Elves, Wood Elves, Dark Elves) would be...


MmmmmmmMmmmmmMmmmmmmm.........Dark Elves.......

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Christian Cuello
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I put up a post asking a similar question, but more in line with what you actually need to start a game with just the free downloadable rulebook. What was said to me was really helpful so I suggest you have a look in case I miss anything

It's true, with the box you get two whole teams, but other things, such as range rulers, dugouts and tokens can be done without. You can get summaries of the rules with everything explained e.g. passing, which is what you "need" the range ruler for. Basically it just goes up in increments of three squares.

The only tricky bit is getting the dice, but they can be found on eBay, or after signing up with the NAF (www.bloodbowl.net). This costs $10 US. There are other sellers on there with some, but they're not easy to find (in my limited experience).

Balls and figures can be found from many different sources. Teams can come from Games Workshop (which is the "official" manufacturer, check out the "Specialist Games" tabs on the US and UK homepages) or there are other options like www.shadowforge.com.au who make alternative teams.

The other thing with going by the "free" option, is that youll have to make your own board. Not too difficult at all, if you have the time

In any case, it's entirely up to you and your budget, and what you're skills/eagerness to convert miniatures is. The last time I calculated the postage from the US it totalled up to around $150 AUD. In all honesty, I saved a lot of money making my own board using stuff that I had at home, but also spent some making my own team (of Undead). For instance, a box of Skeletons - $50, and about $20 on extra components: Still works out cheaper than buying a whole team though.

There's a lot to this game, but it's great fun... even just making the stuff. While my partner was willing to play, she got excited when I showed the female Elf team from Shadowforge So it's worth looking around and checking out what's available

So, in summary: yes it is available!
http://www.specialist-games.com/bloodbowl/default.asp for the free version; or http://uk.games-workshop.com and http://us.games-workshop.com under specialist games. As well as some other retailers (try www.milsims.com.au).

Do you NEED to buy it? Probably not, as everything can be made, substituted or done without. But then again, I wouldn't mind a boxed copy my self! And especially with a little feller like your son, the visual/tactile game aids can help him understand whats going on a bit better, too!

Let us know what you decide on! Good luck!

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Christian,

Thanks you for writing down exactly what I was too busy & lazy to write down! You pretty much nailed all the details down... really it comes down to what your budget is & your enthusiatism since the best thing going for Blood Bowl is the sheer amount of customisations to do & alternative teams you can buy.

One other thought I had to make things as cheap as possible but still experience the game; buy the boxed game with all the bits & then perhaps create some kind of playable chits to represent other teams/players.

Much cheaper, though not as good looking as the real figures. Though if you know what you liked, you can always buy them later.

M
 
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Ben Boersma
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Milsims has them for pre-order as they are getting Blood Bowl stuff for a limited time.

I got a boxed set, and I'm glad I did (I eventually made a custom pitch... but the box set tied me over the 7 months until I made it) laugh

Ben.
 
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As everyone else has said. It is possible to get into it without the box set, but it really is a lot easier to get the box and it is probably worth it.
 
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Thanks all,
OK, mind is made up to start with the box set as I'm a sucker for nice bits. I keep lucking out on an ebay bargain so I'll bite the bullet and head to milsims - I need another postage box for the games I'm currently selling at any rate
I will try and remember to provide a session report when the little one is up for a game. Hopefully BGG will still be up and running in 2018 BTW Impact miniatures (http://www.impactminiatures.com/) seem to have a nice range. I like the look of their undead for starters zombie Not sure what the wife would think of the Valkyries though blush
Cheers again everyone.
 
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I think that's a good decision. Have fun with it!

I just picked up Impact Miniatures 'Pharohs' team... some great stuff there!

Ben.

 
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I am now looking at getting a Halfling and an Ogre team to contrast the Orcs and Humans in the base set. This way, given I have the advantage of having more time to digest the rules than my 2 y.o. son I can handicap myself with the halfings What's the bet he'll scream "I wanna play the hobbits and the big tree!"?
Does anyone know why the Ogre team box (5 Ogres and 1 Goblin) comes with a Goblin rather than a Snotling given the Ogre team list in the living rulebook allows Ogres and Snotlings only in an Ogre team? Is it something to do with Snotlings no longer being available?
 
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Nathan
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GW has done a poor job keeping up with changes to the teams. The reality is they more or less ignore changes in most of the specialist games. For blood bowl that means the team boxes don't always represent the current teams. Originally the orge team played with goblins, this was changed because it was felt to be overpowered.

If you're adding teams to the basics in the box, ogres and 'flings are kind of extreme.
 
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