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Joe Hill
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I was thinking it might be fun to play a murder mystery game.

Something with heavy deduction. Like Clue but more interesting and for adults (not that clue has any sort of "heavy" deduction).

I have been looking into the Mystery Rummy: Jack the Ripper series. There are five of them. Which one is the most interesting? Based on ratings I think it would have to be Jack the Ripper, but I don't want to put too much stock in the ratings. Anyone played all of them and have a preference?

I also think Kill Doctor Lucky looks like fun and our group could get into it.

What about Save Doctor Lucky?

Re-playability is also very important to me.
 
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Mystery Rummy is a fantastic game --- but it is not a deduction game at all.

Kill Doctor Lucky is fun with the right group but can drag, especially with too many players. (I'd say 3-4 players is best.) It is not a deduction game, either.

If you want a deduction game in the Clue vein, check out Sleuth, Mystery of the Abbey and Alibi.

Also, along the suspense/thriller vein (but not deduction) -- Shadows Over Camelot, Arkham Horror (4+ hours), Lord of the Rings.

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I agree with pretty much everything Mr. D said. Mystery at the Abbey looks like it will be right up your alley.
I'd definitely recommend trying to get some of the Mystery Rummy games to play, but I wish you the best of luck in doing so, as many of them are OOP.

Luck!

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How simalar is the Mystery Rummy series to Fury of Dracula? As far as game play goes.
 
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Aside from the gothic-horror theme and the fact that both games use cards, there's virtually zero similarity.


While not usually so much for the 'mystery' (in game terms), you may find "Betrayal at House on the Hill" to hit the right spots for 'suspense' and 'thriller'.


If you want heavy deduction, you want "Black Vienna".
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An evening of Kill Doctor Lucky, and you'll want to hang yourself....


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Yugblad wrote:
An evening of Kill Doctor Lucky, and you'll want to hang yourself....


I too did not find Kill Dr. Lucky to be that entertaining, *but* I played the original Cheapass version, and I heard there are some rules tweaks (they added something called "spite tokens") in the newer versions that make the game play better.

I'll second the recommendation for Betrayal, *but*: 1. It's out of print and might be hard to find and 2. You will definitely want to download and print the errata from BGG, as well as make sure that at least one player is very familiar with the rules (maybe setting it up and playing a few turns solo) to avoid the first game being a frustrating experience. I was lucky enough to have a friend be very familiar with it and our games rarely take over 90 minutes, and are sometimes under an hour.

Umm, or buy two copies of Mr. Jack and switch off?
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Mystery of the Abbey

Research this game. It might fit the bill.
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Get 3 decks of cards and print out Deduce or Die!
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andsoerinsaid wrote:
Get 3 decks of cards and print out Deduce or Die!


That looks really cool, thanks.
 
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Slightly different vein, but you might get a kick out of Scotland Yard. One player is the nefarious Mr. X, who moves secretly around the board, while the others attempt to outmaneuver him (or her).

If you enjoy the hidden movement + deduction element but would prefer it with some added horror-related chrome, you could always check out Fury of Dracula (second edition).

Zendo is a very methodical deduction game (that some suggest could be used to teach the scientific method). It is OOP, but can be played with IceHouse pieces (or even with household objects).

Finally, I've heard that Sid Sackson's Sleuth is about as meaty a deduction game as anyone would want.
 
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I actually really like (original) Kill Doctor Lucky, with the right crowd. But it's not a deduction game at all.

Alibi is great; my friend who had it moved away and I wish he hadn't, or that he'd left it behind.

Betrayal at House on the Hill is OOP. Mall of Horror, though, sound like it might scratch the "suspense/thriller" itch, but there's not really any deduction elements to it either.
 
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Joseph Hill wrote:
I was thinking it might be fun to play a murder mystery game.

Something with heavy deduction. Like Clue but more interesting and for adults (not that clue has any sort of "heavy" deduction).


Mystery of the Abbey IS clue made interesting.


 
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