Thanks in advance for any tips or suggestions!
As a young teenager, I started to get into more serious boardgaming (a few games in my collection are remnants from those days)... and by that I mean games outside of Monopoly Now almost a decade later, I've finally hit the phase in my life where I've got 1) time to game, 2) peers to game with, and 3) disposable income to afford a modest collection (despite still being in grad school). Over the past year, I've been lurking at BGG and picked up a few games that caught my eye. My collection as it stands contains (in no real order; no expansions unless mentioned):
Roads and Boats
Settlers of Catan (plus expansions)
Hannibal: Rome v. Carthage
Yes, it's very modest... R&B hasn't hit the table yet, and we've moved beyond Settlers and Carcassonne, but essentially everything else has been a great hit among my group. The problem is that now I'm trying to figure out how best to expand my collection... and I just don't know what I want.
I do, however, know a few things I'm not interested in at this point: serious wargames and light games (a game needs to be at least as meaty as Settlers w/ expansions for me to really consider it). Besides that, I'm open to just about anything, including expansions to any of the games I already have. The only real goal is that I'd potentially like to expand my collection into other genres or play mechanics.
I'm planning to place a ~$150 order in the next few weeks... any suggestions?
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- Posted Sat Feb 2, 2008 1:31 am
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Looking at your list there are a few obvious things you could use:
- Stock based game
- Auction based game
- Area influence based game
I'm sure there are others.
For stocks, the best example is the 18XX series. You might try starting with something small like 18AL or 18GA, even 18FL. Or, if you're feeling saucy, you could pony up the cash for something like 1830.
Wabash Cannonball is a good, shorter but still interesting stock based game.
For auctions, the two obvious big ones are Ra and Modern Art. Ra is a little more of a gambling game with big turns of fate. Modern Art is more variable, and it's more based on careful calculation.
For area influence games your options are all over the chart. My favourite is probably Martin Wallace's Liberte, a convoluted, brain-contorter of a game with interesting things to consider, but that's a bit pricey these days. El Grande is still a classic in the genre, and is fairly accessible, and is still widely available. For 3 players, San Marco is a real standout in the style.
These are some very basic suggestions, but there you go...
Edit: I also would be a fool to not suggest Princes of Florence for an interesting auction game. It was my second Euro and I still love playing it.
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- Posted Sat Feb 2, 2008 1:39 am
I can recommend my 2 favourite games which are Fury of Dracula and Reef Encounter.
If you like the theme of Arkham Horror, and can deal with the length, Fury of Dracula is a great cooperative (well everyone against 1) chase game. Very exciting and action-packed in my experience.
You don't own Tigris and Euphrates. That's all good, because you can get a game which I think has similar mechanics, but way better theme and artwork. Reef Encounter is one of the most brilliant games I've ever played, and once you get through the rule book is a very rewarding and fun experience every time. Also, there is a great online implementation of the game if you don't feel like buying it or can't find opponents.
How about a Columbia block wargame? The lighter ones aren't very complex or serious but they offer a ton depth in terms of strategy but still have a real wargame feeling.
Hammer of the Scots
Athens & Sparta
Check them out, they are a lot of fun and they are easier to get into than Hannibal.
Also, do you have any interest in abstracts?
Two great Knizia auction games to look into:
Modern Art or Ra(can't figure out how to link it)
You could probably use a card game too:
Catan Card Game
OOh and one of my personal favorites:
Lord of the Rings: The Confrontation
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You seem to be into complex stuff, so pretty much any Ameritrash would suit you :-). But I'm going to recommend complex Euros.
Java / Tikal / Torres / Mexica - these are all similar and I intend to own them all very soon.
Caylus - a complex game which is very popular. I don't like it much myself, but I don't like Railroad Tycoon or TI3 either. However I will go out on a limb and say that Agricola takes the good parts of it and packages them in a better game.
Age of Steam - like Railroad Tycoon but more serious.
Runebound - a long fantasy game which will be sufficiently complex for you.
C&C Ancients - only 2 players, but very different feel to BattleLore.
Vinci - it's not difficult to play but it does require a lot of thought and a variety of interesting situations arise.
Shogun / Wallenstein - I've never even seen these, but I believe they are heavy Weuros and may suit you.
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Taj Mahal and El Grande I suggest to everyone because they are awesome. It also sounds like Imperial might be up your alley.
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Yes, I know a proper 18XX tile should have a tile number.
The expansions for Power Grid and Puerto Rico are highly rated, though in very different ways by very different people.
If you're planning to spend $150 just to get free shipping from one of the online discount merchants, then the expansions fill in the corners of an order very nicely. :-)
(You haven't filled in a profile so we don't know what country you live in, but I'm going to hazard a guess that you're talking about US dollars and not the dollars of some other country.)
Both Brass: Lancashire and Container have a lot of fans right now, but we don't know yet if either of them has the staying power to earn a place on your small-but-growing bookshelf, and if you're in the US Brass: Lancashire is only available as a relatively expensive import, so you might not be able to justify the cost.
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What he said. I was going to suggest Imperial myself. These are all of them stunningly good, deep games.
It sounds as if you are in the enviable position of having a group of gamers that are all excited to learn and play multiple difficult games. Thats great! Some of these will echo whats been said above but all of them introduce a new mechanic or two:
Through the Ages (in stores a few days from now)
Antiquity (the best Splotter game, and you own the other two biggies)
Fury of Dracula has been a smash hit with my friends
A lot of people have been talking about 2-player war games. Dunno if thats your thing, but:
HotS (You really should at least try a block wargame)
Athens and Sparta
Now for a multiplayer war/finance game, I LOVE Struggle of Empires, Friedrich and Imperial. Most of the pure conflict stuff (Axis and Allies, Dust, Mare Nostrum, Attack!) fall a little short of the mark for me.
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- Posted Sat Feb 2, 2008 4:22 pm
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Taj Mahal and In the Year of the Dragon. You are not likely to be disappointed, based on that list.
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and I will add a vote for Shogun.
Plus try to get Roads and Boats to the table.
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Plus try to get Roads and Boats to the table.
And especially try to get it onto the table!
Thanks for the great feedback everyone! I'm overwhelmed, as usual, by the amount of quality games out there.
In the end, I decided to use my pile of gaminglagoon points to order:
Descent (I haven't owned a dungeon crawler in ages)
Race for the Galaxy (as a cardgame to play)
I'll probably place a second order using actual money in the next few weeks. Not certain what will make the cut, but Reef Encounter and Die Macher are both games I'm strongly considering. I've looked at Antiquity before and definitely want to pick it up before it becomes too rare... I also want to grab some expansions... too much stuff
Thanks again for all the suggestions.