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C. J. Robinson
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I'm intrigued by this game. However, how much does it cost? I did not see any reference to it on the Winsome Games website.
 
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Retail 30, plus 10 for shipping, within the US.
 
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Thanks for the information. But it prompts another question. Is it worth $40? The images of the game don't display great production value in the components. Will I get my money's worth, or should I spend my $$ on another train-themed game? I'm thinking perhaps, Silverton or Age of Steam.
 
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If you can find Age of Steam for $40, let me know - I'll take three!

To answer your question of whether it's worth it: Yes. The game play is worth it. Sure, the components are cheap, but you don't get much for your $$ when you're only making a few copies. You can hope that someone picks it up for wider distribution, in which case they'll probably make better components - and jack up the price a bit, though not hugely - but that's a risk.
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Palladin wrote:
Thanks for the information. But it prompts another question. Is it worth $40? The images of the game don't display great production value in the components. Will I get my money's worth, or should I spend my $$ on another train-themed game? I'm thinking perhaps, Silverton or Age of Steam.


You tell me.

I own a fairly large library of Winsome games at this point, and I think they are worth the price paid. They have scant bits and production in comparison to major publisher ventures, but I am more interested in the game than the actual bits, and Winsome tends to publish very interesting, gamer's style train games which appeal to me. You can undoubtedly get nicer looking games with better bits for less money though.

In terms of train games, I think Wabash is one good representative of the stock holding branch of train games, and certainly the fastest playing of the good ones (i.e.: my faves in that family include the Prairie Railroads Series and the 18XX games).

I would never say that it is better than Age of Steam, but AoS is my favourite game period, so that gives you zero information. I have not played Silverton, though it looks interesting, albeit, not something that I am going to be blown away by.
 
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Palladin wrote:
Thanks for the information. But it prompts another question. Is it worth $40?


For me, yes, but then for me Wabash Cannonball is the best game to come out in the last few years.

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The images of the game don't display great production value in the components.


I don't really care about production quality beyond simple playability; I care about the game. Much like Michael I own about a dozen Winsome games (Wabash, Pampas, Lancashire, New England, Robber Barons, both Trainsports, Iron Shoes and Wooden Horses, Australian, Dutch Intercity etc). Apparently there's enough there to keep me buying.

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Will I get my money's worth, or should I spend my $$ on another train-themed game? I'm thinking perhaps, Silverton or Age of Steam.


I own Age of Steam and have played it a few hundred times. Great game. I've played Wabash Cannonball about 30 times in the last 3 months. I'll be unsurprised if that number breaks 100 before the year's end. It will break 50 this year. I've not played Silverton, but I've little interest in it (very much not my style of game).

Will Wabash Cannonball be good for you? Do you like confrontational, calculating, emergent alliance games?
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Palladin wrote:
Thanks for the information. But it prompts another question. Is it worth $40? The images of the game don't display great production value in the components. Will I get my money's worth, or should I spend my $$ on another train-themed game? I'm thinking perhaps, Silverton or Age of Steam.


The game is worth $40, if you have a group that enjoys tight, difficult, train-themed, econ games. The bonus is that it plays in about 45 minutes.

The components won't wow you. The board isn't particularly well designed. The money is best thrown out and replaced with poker chips.

The game itself is awesome though.
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Palladin wrote:
should I spend my $$ on another train-themed game? I'm thinking perhaps, Silverton


I spent a few minutes looking at your profile, sir, especially your postings, and I think Silverton would be a better choice for you, IMHO.
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I appreciate your candor. However I live in the Great Lakes area, and all of the railroads (or their proxies) historically existed and competed in the area. Thus I'm very much attracted to W. Cannonball and I grew up listening to train songs Roy Acuff, Hank Snow and,of course, Arlo Guthrie.
 
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With all due respect, sir, I really don't think it is a good fit. Wabash Cannonball is like a fast sports car with a bad paint job and stiff seats. It is for a special type of gamer. Silverton is like a nice family car with a factory paint job and comfortable seats. Looks nice! Much safer!
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I appreciate the analogy. I guess I gotta prove that I can drive the family sedan before Dad gives me the keys to his two-seater convertible.
 
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John Bohrer wrote:
Palladin wrote:
should I spend my $$ on another train-themed game? I'm thinking perhaps, Silverton


I spent a few minutes looking at your profile, sir, especially your postings, and I think Silverton would be a better choice for you, IMHO.


That's some pretty @#$%ing awesome service from a game publisher right there! Cheers!

Speaking of which, how do I go about getting a copy, John? Do I need to e-mail you or something?
 
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Speaking of which, how do I go about getting a copy, John? Do I need to e-mail you or something?


http://www.boardgameprices.com/search.aspx?cs=silverton
 
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Is today opposite day? In the past, you've been an ardent promoter. What game would you recommend for me?
 
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out4blood wrote:
Speaking of which, how do I go about getting a copy, John? Do I need to e-mail you or something?


http://www.boardgameprices.com/search.aspx?cs=silverton


No. I meant Wabash Cannonball, silly!
 
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out4blood wrote:
No. I meant Wabash Cannonball, silly!


US$40 in a postal order to John Bohrer along with a USA shipping address.
 
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