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He's advertising on the site; does that make him one?

Interesting.

Note that I'm not the least bit bothered by political advertising on this site. Rather I'm honored that a person of his stature, regardless of his political leanings, recognizes the predominant site representing my hobby of choice as worthy to spend advertising money on.
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No to be a geek he would have to have a semblance of humanity and being a republican that isn't possible. He is actually an outright mercenary and you seem to have fallen for the ploy hook, line and sinker.





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No to be a geek he would have to have a semblance of humanity and being a republican that isn't possible. He is actually an outright mercenary and you seem to have fallen for the ploy hook, line and sinker.





Fine political commentary from a resident of a country where men wear skirts, eat sheep stomachs and call bagpipes musical intruments. Your whiskey is good, though.
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Fine political commentary from a resident of a country where men wear skirts, eat sheep stomachs and call bagpipes musical intruments. Your whiskey is good, though.


I agree, fine commentary. Also, what's not to like about a gentle breeze and a good meal with fine music and spirits.
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I'm all for gentle breezes, good food, and music.

I'm all against McCain.
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I've heard many four letter words used in describing John McCain. Geek isn't one of them.
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rkalajian wrote:
I'm all for gentle breezes, good food, and music.

I'm all against McCain.




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I've heard many four letter words used in describing John McCain. Geek isn't one of them.


Hero is.
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This is the point at which people hit the X and mark this thread as "Wrong Forum".
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Eldard wrote:
pilight wrote:
I've heard many four letter words used in describing John McCain. Geek isn't one of them.


Hero is.


True.

I don't particularly cotton to McCain's interpretation of conservative politics, but he is for real. He's bona fide. It's up to the spinmasters now to reshape his image to appeal to the conservatives and those who equate strong character with leadership. If they can achieve that even an Obama/Clinton or Cinton/Obama ticket will fold like a broken straight come November.
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I'm not a huge McCain fan either, but this whole "Republicans/Democrats/anyone I disagree with aren't human beings," nonsense is exactly what is wrong with this country right now.

On the original topic, I doubt the candidate has time to pick where his advertising goes. I bet some of his ad people are geeks though!
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I knew the "wrong forum" post would happen. I deliberately did not post this in the politics forum because I didn't intend for this to become a political discussion. I should have known better.

To me the most interesting aspect of this is the fact that the geek has risen to such a point that even those who can't afford the slightest blemish are using it as a means of promoting themselves. Even in spite of the fact that this is a decidedly niche hobby that historically has a bad popularity rap.

So much for all of the arguments against the word "geek". In my mind this disproves any and all notions that the name detracts from the credibility of this site.

Please try to keep this off of republican versus democrat. I know it's hard to do right now but there really is a more game and BGG focus to this than that.

Edit: Too late. I see this has been moved. Oh well, let the mudslinging continue.
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Men wearing skirts plus a gentle breeze is not a good thing.
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Men wearing skirts plus a gentle breeze is not a good thing.


What a visual! I was just starting lunch and now I am not hungry.

My original post was not a political comment, just a slam against outsiders spouting rubbish about things that are none of their business.
 
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He's advertising on the site; does that make him one?


Where? Is he selling Sweet Notes Cookie Jars from Crayola?
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I think it's funny how many people: "Don't like" McCain, Clintion, Obama, Huckabee, etc etc.

How many of you actually know these people? You know their stump speeches and their public persona.

You might not like their politics, their religion, their haircuts, or their suits. However, you can't claim to not like them unless you actually know them.
 
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I saw a banner ad for him. I haven't seen it again since the first time I saw it.

He may have been holding a crayon or a cookie or a cookie shaped like a crayon.
 
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I like where this thread is headed...

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I saw a banner ad for him.
He may have been holding a crayon or a cookie or a cookie shaped like a crayon.


You hope it was a cookie or a crayon...
 
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Eldard wrote:
pilight wrote:
I've heard many four letter words used in describing John McCain. Geek isn't one of them.


Hero is.
I don't know about that. He no doubt is a survivor, having endured a long time as a POW. But does that make one a hero? Is the petty thief who was sent to prison for 6.5 years due to bungled evidence, only to be freed and given $3.7 million for his troubles a hero or just a survivor (by the way, he's dead now)?

Not to belittle Mr. McCain's ability to endure torture, but does that make a person a hero?
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rkalajian wrote:
I'm all for gentle breezes, good food, and music.

I'm all against McCain.


I wonder if you'd like him a little more if he bought one of the games you Designed/Publish.
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Ah, John McCain, the hero who did not break under torture. The power of myth!
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It wasn't the first time McCain broke under pressure. After his capture, wrote the Republic, "He was placed in a cell and told he would not receive any medical treatment until he gave military information. McCain refused and was beaten unconscious. On the fourth day, two guards entered McCain's cell. One pulled back the blanket to reveal McCain's injured knee. 'It was about the size, shape and color of a football,' McCain recalled. Fearful of blood poisoning that would lead to death, McCain told his captors he would talk if they took him to a hospital."

McCain has always been truthful about his behavior as a POW, but he has been more than willing to allow others to lie on his behalf. "A proven leader, and a man of integrity," The New York Post says, and he's happy to take it. "All he had to do was denounce his country. He refused..." Not really. He did denounce his country. But he didn't demand a retraction.

The whole article is worth reading:
http://www.uexpress.com/tedrall/?uc_full_date=20080205
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It's up to the spinmasters now to reshape his image to appeal to the conservatives and those who equate strong character with leadership


DW,

That is a very acute observation. Is "strong character (I also here bad temper)" true leadership? Very good question in regard to McCain, one I wont attempt to answer or politicize here on BGG but I will think about.


 
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russ wrote:
Ah, John McCain, the hero who did not break under torture. The power of myth!
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It wasn't the first time McCain broke under pressure. After his capture, wrote the Republic, "He was placed in a cell and told he would not receive any medical treatment until he gave military information. McCain refused and was beaten unconscious. On the fourth day, two guards entered McCain's cell. One pulled back the blanket to reveal McCain's injured knee. 'It was about the size, shape and color of a football,' McCain recalled. Fearful of blood poisoning that would lead to death, McCain told his captors he would talk if they took him to a hospital."

McCain has always been truthful about his behavior as a POW, but he has been more than willing to allow others to lie on his behalf. "A proven leader, and a man of integrity," The New York Post says, and he's happy to take it. "All he had to do was denounce his country. He refused..." Not really. He did denounce his country. But he didn't demand a retraction.

The whole article is worth reading:
http://www.uexpress.com/tedrall/?uc_full_date=20080205


We have no idea if any of that is true. But, you can go on believing what ever you want to.

If you repeat a lie often enough it becomes indistinguishable from the truth.
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Beyak wrote:
We have no idea if any of that is true. But, you can go on believing what ever you want to.

As can you! After reading the article, I did some more research instead of just automatically dismissing it and saying:
Beyak wrote:
If you repeat a lie often enough it becomes indistinguishable from the truth.
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