I'm planning on getting Silent War for my birthday, and understand there are a lot of counters that go with it. And I was wondering what the best way to sort/store them would be. Obviously ziplock bags are an option, but I've seen some storage boxes in the pictures. Do any trays fit inside the box itself(like Eisenbach Gap)? Do GMT counter trays work well? A good plano box or similar?
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For most counters bags are sufficient.
TDC's one bag
Japanese ships in one bag
Random/Rest in a third bag.
Non-US subs in another if you wish.
Then come the American subs...
My suggestion would be to leave the subs unpunched, as they are generally grouped pretty well and consequently easy to find when you play the major campaign.
After that, you could sort by 'Year' in ziplocks and then spend a few minutes separating into months when you reach that year during gameplay. For a full campaign that took me about 150 hours to play through, 5 minutes to sort the sub counters seems pretty insignificant.
If you insist on plano, You'd probably want to sort by month of entry (probably 2-3 months per 'square')
The alternative is to sort in plano alphabetically. Most early groups that enter start with the same letter. This also would make finding the subs easy to find if you are looking at playing some of the smaller campaigns or patrols.
Hope that helps.
I used Ziplock bags of three different sizes and it all fits in the box.
2 larger ones (quart?) about 6"x6"
- 1 holds all the Japanese ship counters
- 1 holds all the US sub counter *small zip locks*
1 3"x4" ziplock has the spotted/damaged/RTB counters
6 2'x3" ziplock for other counters
- Super Skipper counters
- Sub Tenders
- Optional Subs (Surcouf, Seawolf, etc.)
- TDC chits
- Axis Subs
- Board counters (Ultra, Tonnage, Wolfpack, Tonnage, etc.)
US subs are broken up into smaller ziplocks by two month periods and stored in the larger ziplock to keep things a bit orderly when not in use.
Mainly use 2"x3" ziplocks for this, but use a 3"x4" ziplock for all the W/S (war start) subs.
I just was scratching my head about punching this one as well and here are a couple thoughts:
Step #1: DON'T PUNCH THE SUBS YET
Step #2: Read the rules enough to familiarize yourself with the game to play a patrol scenario.
Step #3: DON'T PUNCH THE SUBS YET
Step #4: Punch all the square counters. I easily fit all these in a GMT type counter tray. Don't put the counters in the tray yet until you've played a scenario. This was the mistake I made and I had the counters not organized in a way that would make set-up and and putting away the game very easy. Once you've played the game you will know how the counters are actually used. This will dictate how you put them in the counter tray.
I did punch the non-US subs at this point since they are on half a countersheet with some of the square counters. I put all the Netherlands subs in a small ziplock bag. I then put all the English subs in another small ziplock. The rest of the countries I mixed into another ziplock. There were a few US subs on that sheet also so I just put them into another small ziplock for now.
Step #5: DON'T PUNCH THE REST OF THE SUBS YET
Step #6: Play a scenario. You only need one sub to play any given scenario. Just punch the one you need.
At this point you'll know enough about how the game works that you can put all the square counters away.
This is as far as I've gotten so far. I've left the 3 full sheets of subs unpunched and just put them in the bottom of the box. As Randy mentioned, it's probably best to sort by entry date in some way since that's generally the way campaign play is organized but it might be just as easy to do it alphabetically. The problem with sorting by entry date is that it makes finding the subs for scenario play more difficult unless you know where the scenario subs are in terms of entry date. Maybe just writing this info on a piece of paper would make that easier.
I'm a Plano organizer fan but for this game I don't think it would work well. There's not enough room in the box. The GMT counter tray that I have the square counters in works nicely. It has 20 compartments (5x4). However, it wouldn't work nicely for the subs because the counters are too big, you wouldn't have enough room for all of them. And there's not enough room for a GMT counter tray and a Plano in the game box. I tried to use the model 3500 size. So I think small ziplock bags is the way to go with the US subs.
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Heed Alan's advice
I usually go for Plano or ziplock bags but given the large number of counters and looking for a period feel, I used normal letter envelopes in manila in the following way:
All IJN & Merchants
US Subs '32, W/S & '42
US Subs '43 & '44
RNN, RN & Axis Subs with '45 and Experimental US Subs
All non-ship counters
I went for the ones with the small brass fastening (i.e not gummed so reusable) and even printed address labels with these in 'courier' font to look of the period... I know, I know - GEEK!
Have fun however you store them!!!
I used two small plastic ice cube trays. Easy to sort the Japanese and incidental counters. For the Americans, I placed them in the order they entered the war.Each cube has more than one date, but if you know the date, can usually quickly find the right cube and the right sub
The ice cube trays fit in the box nicely