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Henrik Stromberg
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Wanting to further introduce the world of gaming to my two children, I wonder what the feeling around this forum is regarding playing the game with 3 players. (The children are 11 and 14 years old)

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Philip Thomas
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With 3 players one player takes Prussia, one Austria (and the Imperials) and the third takes France and Russia (and Sweden).

Prussia is a complex and demanding role which you would probably want to start with playing yourself. The other two roles should be ok, so long as the French/Russian player can get used to playing on opposite sides of the board.

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It is a great three player game. Yes, you should play Prussia/Hanover. And your kids will try to beat you by working together, against the original idea of the game, but your experience game-playing should make the game close, even with their strategy.
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In some ways, when first experiencing this game, playing with 3 has some advantages over 4. The France player experiences considerable downtime, and before everyone understands the subtleties of the strategies and is engaged by the various tradeoffs, this can be off-putting for that player. Playing Russia/Sweden/France keeps this player as busy as the others. As well, I think it helps everyone learn the game more quickly, as the France advance tends to be ponderous due to having only 3 armies and 3 cards (vs. the Hannover 2, plus whatever the Prussians eventually throw at them) and the fact their objectives are pretty much in two straight lines which join together into one--there is not as much option for clever maneuvering by France as by the other powers.

What will be lost with experienced players is this tends to tilt the game quite a bit against Prussia, since the idea is all the anti-Prussia coalition are supposed to be trying to win their own victory. Suit sector analysis, for example, is key, you do not want to be the first ally to go up against Prussia in a given suit, you want to attack in that suit after Prussia's hand in that suit has been bled by one of your allies! And France benefits here by going last. So the France game is quite a bit differnet from anyone else's, which is well brought out in the 4-player game. And once again, I have to say kudos to the Designer for bringing out the historical feel of these various powers with such an elegant and what would seem quite abstract design!

So, it will be great for you and your sons learn the game (and perhaps even the history!) playing 3-player. Then, bring in another fellow to play against you and 'mere' children...heh heh heh!
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Henrik Stromberg
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Thanks for the replies. Friedrich will be the game for the summer holidays. Perhaps I will experience that, as it was said, "mere" children will give dad a royal preussian beating :-)

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