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Rudy
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Earlier today I wanted to find a dexterity golf game where you flick a disk (ball) into a slot (cup). So I jumped on BBG and ran a search but could not find what I was looking for. Then I thought about games that I own like PitchCar and Crokinole. If I combine the two I might be able to make my own golf game. Stay with me here.

Suppose I build an incomplete PitchCar track with about 4-6 connected pieces in it. Then take off the rails on all of the straights. This could be the equivalent to one hole in golf. Still with me? Your object is to start at the starting line (tee box) and get to the last track segment (green) in as little moves as possible. Going of the track is out of bounds, and flipping the car upside down is considered a hazard. They are both one stroke penalties.



So were does Crokinole fit in? Consider it the putting green, only magnified. Depending on where you stop on the last track segment in PitchCar, this will determine the position in which you place your disk on the Crokinole board. (If you are close to the edge of the track, you place it close to the edge on the Crok' board. If your are near the center of the track segment, you place it near the center on the Crok' board.) Then you flick (putt) your disk into the 20 point hole (cup) in as little moves as possible. Get the picture?



What about hole in ones? If, in one flick, you are able to “drive” your disk to the center of the last track segment, you have a chance for a hole in one. You then place your disk on the Crok' board and take a shot at the 20 point hole. It's just like taking a free shot at the 20 in Crokinole.

You could also use jumps to make island greens. Do I lay up or go for the green? Hmmm.

So what do you think dexterity fans? Can it work?

EDIT: Can't get these pictures to show up right.
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Dude, that sounds great. I'm actually surprised someone hasn't come up with something like this before.
 
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I think it sounds like fun. I don't like the idea of having to set up 18 different Pitchcar tracks for every hole, that could be the annoying bit. But the whole idea of having a 'fairway' board, and a 'green' board sounds great.

It reminds me of that pen + paper game where you 'flick' the pen to take a shot.

Ideally, you could take your idea, run with it, mass produce pre-set 'fairway' tiles (just as in pitchcar), which would give a more 'golfy' feel to the game, and then, as you indicated use the Crokinole board for the green.

All up, it looks like a great idea. I own pitchcar, but if you made a similar design that was green and curvy (as the pitchcar roads are straight and black - doesn't go well with the golfing theme) then I'd buy it (if the price was right).
 
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I was thinking you can even take the jump from a PitchCar set and put it so when you hit the jump, it'll land on the Crokinole board.

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DKahnt wrote:
I was thinking you can even take the jump from a PitchCar set and put it so when you hit the jump, it'll land on the Crokinole board.


Now there's an idea. Why didn't I come up with that?
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DKahnt wrote:
I was thinking you can even take the jump from a PitchCar set and put it so when you hit the jump, it'll land on the Crokinole board.


Now there's an idea. Why didn't I come up with that?


Can I have co-design rights?

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DKahnt wrote:
Can I have co-design rights? -DK


Sure. You can also help with costs too.
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I could see someone (else) with a woodworking bent making a (or even several) pieces that fit onto the pitchcar track and provide the green (and maybe the tee as well) without the need for the crokinole board.

A basic round "green", an oval, a rectangle, maybe something with some odd angles... All with several holes and plugs so that you can choose which hole to use on a given hole. Or maybe even numbered plugs so you can have a random determination.

I may have to get someone to work on this for me.
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I'd play it!

sounds like a neat idea..
 
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Use a different finger, depending on proximity to the hole, to represent clubs.
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A matt varnish along the edges to emulate 'rough'.
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How about ... ramps of different angles to represent the different clubs ... then you can have some trees to play over. Subbuteo Rugbyused a plastic ramp for drop-kicking the plastic rugby ball in a similar way.
 
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How about just paying $3.50 and going miniature golfing?
 
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mr_lunch wrote:
Use a different finger, depending on proximity to the hole, to represent clubs.


or different discs, each with different degrees of roughness\slideability?
 
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reapersaurus wrote:
How about just paying $3.50 and going miniature golfing?


because it's cold and rainy. because it costs more than $3.50. because there isn't a good course around here and what with the cost of gas and all it's not convenient to go to the good course further away. because I don't want to play minature golf, I want to play a dexterity boardgame of real golf. because I want to play after For Sale and before Bohnanza all in one evening. because the minature golf course is closed for the night and I can't get another trespassing arrest. and because I want to drink beer while I'm playing.
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I think the idea is very good, but instead of Crokinole you'd need specialized "greens". Every green isn't flat, and cup placement differs on courses too.

I bet some of the more wood-crafty types might be interested in putting your game idea into game reality.

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We actually built this a bunch of years ago. We created a bunch of fairway sections similar to pitchcar, and we had a "green" board modeled after a crokinole board. All were reasonably polished like a crokinole board surface.
Then we played it.
Where it all went to crap was it took too damned long to set up each hole. Playing one went quick enough, but then there was the drudgery of building the next one. Oh, it was a little fun for the first couple, but after that it wasn't.
We chucked the works into a box, and I think it made fine firewood.
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How about this: start by building a putting green-themed crokinole board, so that if you reach the same conclusion as Stan and throw the rest in the fireplace, you still have a crokinole board. Leave the deck attached only with screws, so that when you want to play croki-golf, you can remove it and push it together with your rectangular fairway board.

The fairway board would be maybe four feet long and two feet wide, with a concave end that would allow it to fit together with the crokinole deck. The fairway board would have lots of dowel holes that you'd use to place your various features (trees, sandtraps, walls, ramps, windmills, dinosaurs, whatever) all with dowel-pegs on the bottom. So the only set-up that would be required each round is to move features around on the fairway board, which wouldn't take too long. You could either have pre-planned set-ups, or play that the loser of the previous hole gets to decide how the features are set up on the next one.

Hmmm, I've got an spare crokinole deck in the basement that I never could decide what color to stain--I'm on it.
 
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reapersaurus wrote:
How about just paying $3.50 and going miniature golfing?


WHERE do you miniature golf... 1985? More like $8 on up these days.
 
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Pretty cool idea! I like it.
 
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Nice, I like it a lot
 
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mr_lunch wrote:
Use a different finger, depending on proximity to the hole, to represent clubs.


How about choosing one hand to drive and the other hand to putt for an entire round.
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I like the idea Rudy! I also like the thought process and brainstorming that's occurring in here. It would be cool to have sections of wood that could all interlock in some way. Not too many though as it could get rather expensive. But if you had something like 4 fairway sections, 3 different greens, each hole could be set up quite differently. And if the greens had more than one interlocking side, then the hole placement in each hole of the course could differ as well.

I also like the idea of holes that would be drilled into each section. Then you could place wooden doweling in certain areas to act as trees. To create the rough would be easy. Take some heavy grit sandpaper and rough up the outer areas of the wood. That way if you try shooting through it, the disc would slow up immensely.

I'm definitely bookmarking this thread
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I'm sure I played a plastic mini-golf game when I was a kid, my neighbour had it. Searched for it and found the following which isn't it since the old game wasn't that expensive and didn't use a real club (that game used something more lika a toothpick sized club if I remember correctly):
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Crazy-Golf-Bag-Mini-Obstacles/dp/B00...
 
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I love this idea.
I'll have to talk to a couple of wood working friends of mine and see if we can't make a "hole" or two.
Thanks
 
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