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Subject: What cards do you use for how many players???? rss

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Dennis Dore
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Help!!! Is it just me? I can't even begin to get into the rules. I'm totally confused right from the start by which occupation cards to use depending on the number of players. All three examples apply to five players or for that matter 4 players (1-5,3-5 and 4-5). What is this supposed to mean. Then it says with 4-5 players use the whole deck. If that's the case why then have a choice with 4+ on it if with 4 or 5 you are supposed to use the whole deck?? Can any one straighten this out for me? I just don't get it.
 
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Paul Newsham
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If you have 5 players, then you can play with cards that show: 1+, 3+, 4+ and 5+.

If you have 4 players, then you can play with cards that show: 1+, 3+, 4+, but not 5+.

If you have 3 players, then you can play with cards that show: 1+ or 3+.

For 1 or 2 players, you can only play with cards that show 1+.
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Dennis Dore
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There are no 5+ cards... only 1+, 3+ and 4+. Your comment helped though. The cards would be better designed and clearer if the three types were: (1 and 2); (3); and (4 and 5) with each successive group including the groups below it. In this way a 4 or 5 player game includes all the cards; or a 3 player game includes with it just the (1 and 2).
 
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Dennisdore wrote:
There are no 5+ cards... only 1+, 3+ and 4+. Your comment helped though. The cards would be better designed and clearer if the three types were: (1 and 2); (3); and (4 and 5) with each successive group including the groups below it. In this way a 4 or 5 player game includes all the cards; or a 3 player game includes with it just the (1 and 2).


Wow, that's amazingly confusing compared to the really simple method currently used.

Consider a three player game under the current system. You have a card that says "1+". Do you have 1 or more players? Yes. So you use it. You have another card that says "3+". Do you have 3 or more players? Yes. So you use it. You have another card that says "4+". Do you have 4 or more players? No. So you don't use it. How difficult can that be?

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B C Z
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Shuffle the entire deck.
Everyone draws their cards and checks - any that have too high a number are immediately discarded and replaced. Repeat until all the 'too high numbers' are pulled from the deck.
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mike paul
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Dennis, I feel your pain having just read the rule booklet. While I wasn't confused by which cards where used based upon the number of players, I do agree they are poorly labeled.

Whoever wrote/translated those rules did an awful job. Aside from being needlessly confusing, there are blaring typos all over. It feels as if the rules were writen for someone familiar with the game, because having never played it, I had a pickle of a time making sense of what all the playmats were for and a dozen other "basic" concepts.
 
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Poorly labelled? I really can't understand that! If the card says "N+", then that card is for "N+" players! How could it be any more succinct?

I suppose it could have said "or more" instead of "+", but really - what a waste of space that would be!
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Peter Varholak
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HisDivineShadow wrote:
Poorly labelled? I really can't understand that! If the card says "N+", then that card is for "N+" players! How could it be any more succinct?

I suppose it could have said "or more" instead of "+", but really - what a waste of space that would be!


Strongly agree with this. It is quite fair marked and understandable.
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Rich P
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If you've just started with the game, and you're learning from the rulebook, I'd recommend ignoring the Occupation and Minor Improvement cards and just play the Family Game. Worry about the extra cards later, once you're familiar with all the actions and the flow of the game.
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eimative wrote:
Dennis, I feel your pain having just read the rule booklet.

Reading the rules when they were first translated, I was pretty confused as well. Now that I have my game, it all makes sense. Not seeing what 300 cards look like or all the spaces on the boards, it doesn't make sense. But you read a paragraph, find the corresponding game piece, and it all falls into place.
 
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If you've just started with the game, and you're learning from the rulebook, I'd recommend ignoring the Occupation and Minor Improvement cards and just play the Family Game. Worry about the extra cards later, once you're familiar with all the actions and the flow of the game.


I agree with this. I got my copy yesterday and so far have only played solo games (taking it to my gaming group on Thursday!), but I started with the Family Game option, and it made it way easier to get into the option with Minor Improvements and Occupations.
 
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Yep, I just got this yesterday. I sat down and read the rulebook first and found it confusing. I then sat down and played through a solo game, looking up the rules as I went. The rules go down a lot easier when you're playing as opposed to just reading.
 
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How do I open the box?
 
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How do I open the box?


Try a chainsaw?
 
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