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OK, I got my copy of the game, but how do I pronounce it?

It's Latin for farmer and poly-syllabic Latin words have the accent on the penultimate syllable, so one latin guide said soft "o" as in "orb" or "off" (ah-gri-KAH-lah)? But I also see (ah GREE koh lah) as how to pronounce the boy's name Agricola, and dictionary.com says (uh-GRIK-uh-luh) for the name of the famous Agricola.

Maybe I'll just say "Let's play THIS (hold up box) game."
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poly-syllabic Latin words have the accent on the penultimate syllable


Up to a point, Lord Copper. In agricola, the vowels are are short (Latinwise), so the stress is on the antepenult. It only goes on the penult if the penult has a long vowel. I vote for the third pronunciation.
 
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I prefer the pronunciation that matches the Ricola commercials.I'm sure it has nothing to do with the real pronunciation.

Aaaaagreeeeeeecolaaaaaaaa
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Yeah, by the medieval period I think the stressed vowels became long no matter what.

Of course in 1673 no farmer on the planet was speaking any kind of Latin so hey: Dealer's choice.
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See exhaustive answers to this question here:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/263350/page/1

EDIT: (It's A-grih -cuh-la. Stress on the second syllable. The 'i' letter is pronounced like "grin.")
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I believe I was the first to address this issue almost a year ago after I heard it being horribly mispronounced at Euroquest.
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/239212
 
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Dave Sawyer wrote:
OK, I got my copy of the game, but how do I pronounce it?

Sûrch fuhngk-shuhn.
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I would say, pronounce it however you want, unless the publisher wants to recommend something.

JohnRayJr wrote:
See exhaustive answers to this question here:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/263350/page/1

EDIT: (It's A-grih -cuh-la. Stress on the second syllable. The 'i' letter is pronounced like "grin.")

The person, in that thread, who sounds like they know their Latin, says the pronunciation authentic to Latin would be 'ah-GREE-coh-lah'.


Personally, I think the anglicized way to say it would probably be 'agri-COLA'. That sounds more natural to me, as an English speaker.
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I would say, pronounce it however you want, unless the publisher wants to recommend something.


I think this goes without saying. I'm just answering a question which would not have been asked in the first place if the OP's attitude was "I'll just pronounce it whichever way seems best or natural to me."

cull wrote:
Personally, I think the anglicized way to say it would probably be 'agri-COLA'. That sounds more natural to me, as an English speaker.


Again, your choice. As for the "anglicized" pronunciation, others have noted that various current farming-related business (awards, associations, etc.) already use the word, and pronounce it as I said and as it is explained in the thread.

Lastly, an italian / Latin "i" does not sound exactly like "grin" OR "greek." Neither does justice to the accent. Because the sound is quite short, grin is closer, since the "ee" sound in English is always long.

Carry on.

EDIT: I would say pronounce it however you want, whether or not the publisher recommends something. There's no reason to stop there if you're pronouncing according to personal preference.
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I will pronounce the game Agricola ... the English way. Why? B/c I speak English.

When everyone clamoring for the latinate pronunciation starts pronouncing the "v" in victory as a "w," then I'll take their views more seriously. Other than that, we're talking about a whole heaping helping of 1/2 informed pedantry.

Edit: oh yeah ... and the game is simply brilliant.


There is no clamor, only polite answers for those who are curious. When everyone declaring their "rights of pronunciation" takes note of question marks and benign linguistic interest...

Other than that, we're talking about a whole heaping helping of can't-be-bothered-to-read defensiveness.

Yes, the game is brilliant
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In Latin, the letter "I" is pronounced "ee."
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The pronunciation you are looking for can best be achieved by tickling your gag reflex with either your finger or a feather. A full stomach will create a stunning visual effect to go with the proper pronunciation.yuk
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Abstractite wrote:
In Latin, the letter "I" is pronounced "ee."


Yes, but the syllable is not as long as it is in English.
 
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Abstractite wrote:
In Latin, the letter "I" is pronounced "ee."

Except, of course, when it isn't.

This book is decent treatment of the subject. I highly recommend reading it.
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Dave Sawyer wrote:
OK, I got my copy of the game, but how do I pronounce it?


R-O-L-A-I-D-S

Wait, sorry. That's how I spell it.
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There s no verbal Latin, lol! Only what is left after two thousand years of bastardisation.

It is pronounced Ah-gree-ko-la versus how the Americans like to pronounce it agrik u la. Which is a gag reflex after eating chickfila!

But then again only in america can something sound dyslexic, a gag reflex and back ward all in one!

Its all Moss Cow to me!
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Ah-GREE-co-la

It's Latin for "to farm" and you can hear a teacher drilling his class on the various conjugations of the verb in the movie "Dead Poet's Society".

(Assuming they got it right!)
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'It's Latin for "to farm"'

Not quite. Agricola is a noun, meaning "one who farms" or "farmer" from ager (field). Also, nouns are declined rather than conjugated, which applies to verbs.

Ah-GREE-co-la is the correct pronunciation though. The rule is: if the second last syllable is long, accent it. Otherwise, accent the third last syllable. Since "-co" is short, the accent goes on the "-gri."

The same principle shows why Spartacus is pronounced SPAR-ta-cus instead of Spar-TAK-US.
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Who says we need to defer to Latin? English has "borrowed" words from all major and most minor languages, then "Anglofied" them......both in pronunciation and meaning...

It is a word that begins the same way that "agriculture" begins and thus I pronounce it similarly,,,

AG-ri-ko-lah

 
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Who says we need to defer to Latin? English has "borrowed" words from all major and most minor languages, then "Anglofied" them......both in pronunciation and meaning...

It is a word that begins the same way that "agriculture" begins and thus I pronounce it similarly,,,

AG-ri-ko-lah


We need to defer to latin because it is NOT a word we stole. Rather a word used for a title.

Do you use agricola in everyday life as a word for a farmer or farming? No? Didn't think so.

Had it been one of many many words/prefixes/suffixes we have stolen from various languages I would agree. But it's not.
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Like in Spanish.

As far as I remember, Latin was pronounced like modern Spanish. In Spanish the accent is placed in the second syllable.

If you click on the speaker of the left box, you can hear the Spanish pronunciation here:

https://translate.google.es/?hl=es&tab=wT#es/en/agr%C3%ADcol...

But Google also gives you the pronunciation in Latin, so lets see...

https://translate.google.es/?hl=es&tab=wT#la/en/agricola

The "a" is too long for my Spanish pronunciation, but as you can hear, it sounds exactly like Spanish.

I hope it helps.
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I've always just pronounced it the same way as agriculture.
 
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Diggin up ol' dirt here, but I like to say it as I would imagine an Iowa farmer would:
agri-CO-la.
It's probably wrong, but it's what I find comfortable.
A little cringe shivers through my body when I hear or say "ah-GRICK-ola."
Not to say it's wrong! Those that do are probably right. Just can't do it personally.

It is similar to how I still tend to say "Foe" when pronouncing "Phở" or "Bahn EYE-ver" when pronouncing "Bon Iver."
Mea culpa. Just can't help m'self.
 
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