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Poll: Do we need a rating/user purge on BGG?
Should BGG delete users and their ratings if they have not logged on to the site in a certain number of years?
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Poll created by fullerbd


While going through the user want list for Age of Mythology, I noticed that many of the users that rated it and have it on their want list for trade have not logged into the site in 2-4 years. These may be people who made multile user names to help a games ratings or just people that lost interest in the site. This may have been discussed in the past but I missed it if it was. What do you think?
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Unless there is strong evidence that these were shill accounts -- and there is already a shillbuster filter for that purpose -- then we must assume those ratings were legitimate. The fact that they are old does not make them any less legitimate. I rated "Puerto Rico" 2 years ago and haven't changed my rating since. Should that make it less valid?
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Not at all, because you are still an active member of the site. I am talking about the people who have almost no profile info a few games rated and haven't logged onto the site in years.
 
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I would still make the same argument -- unless we know that those ratings were shills, they would have been valid when they were made. They add some small, useful amount of information to the overall rating, but not so much that it overwhelms the more up-to-date ratings.

The rating system is the collective average of many different people's opinions, made for many different reasons. I don't see that we can make guesses about intent or validity unless the rating is obviously made by a shill. (And in general, I think that coming to BGG, rating a few games, and eventually getting bored probably doesn't mean you were a shill -- maybe, but not usually.)
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Fair enough. I realize this would shake up the game ratings quite a bit. It was a bit annoying that almost everybody that had listed the game as a want for trade, no longer visits the site. I know some other message board type sites will delete inactive users after a certain amount of time. I was just curious of the opinions here.
 
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fullerbd wrote:
It was a bit annoying that almost everybody that had listed the game as a want for trade, no longer visits the site.


I can certainly the use of BGG auto-filtering "want in trade" or "have in trade" if the user hasn't logged in in a long time -- that's a clear indication that the user isn't going to respond to a trade request. But ratings are independent of being active on the site.
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UNCLEAN! UNCLEAN! They must be purged!!!

Seriously, why consider this? These folks took the trouble to rate the games. Just because they haven't visited here in a few years is no reason to think they're not still gamers. Not every gamer frequents the Geek! I think eliminating their ratings causes far more problems than it solves.
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Trades and ratings are totally different. Just because a person hasn't logged in for years doesn't mean that they're still not playing that game constantly, and still love it.

Trades, now that's clearly something that interferes with the day to day use by users. By all means I'd support clearing the "for trade" flag if you haven't logged in for a few years.
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I didn't answer my own poll for this reason. I was looking for opinions. You all have convinced me that it makes sense for ratings should stay, but I do feel that the other profile info should be removed.
 
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I think that for all places where we want up to date info on them (google map searches, trades) their boxes/names should start out "closed" like spam posts. You would have an option to open up all of them /close all of them. Or at least a grave emoticon next to their names.
 
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UnknownParkerBrother wrote:
Trades, now that's clearly something that interferes with the day to day use by users. By all means I'd support clearing the "for trade" flag if you haven't logged in for a few years.


There's any easier solution than this. Rather than manipulating data inside accounts without any real knowledge of the intent of the user, perhaps the best course of action is to ask Aldie to tweak the functionality a little bit so you can filter queries with a certain log in date for users, or even order the query by last login date or something to that effect. Seems like there is a programmatic solution to this problem.
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Dujo wrote:
ask Aldie to tweak the functionality a little bit so you can filter queries with a certain log in date for users, or even order the query by last login date or something to that effect. Seems like there is a programmatic solution to this problem.


YES!!!! PLEASE!!!!
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Anyone know if there's an easy way to look at a game's ratings by year, or by active user vs all users?

That'd be a cool feature if it's already implemented.

 
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dcclark wrote:
Unless there is strong evidence that these were shill accounts -- and there is already a shillbuster filter for that purpose --

So what does one do when we see a shill account? One that for example was made a few years ago, appears that they've logged in once (or only within a few days of creating their account), and have rated one game (usually a perfect 10, but sometimes a less-conspicuous 8.

Is there a moderator that we can report these accounts to?
 
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Also, just because someone hasn't taken the time to log in recently does not mean that they do not actively use the site without logging in. Such a person might justifiably be annoyed if you deleted his/her ratings.

I mean, why stop at their ratings? Why not their collection? Their contributions?

Before you posit that such people don't exist, I myself created my account back around 2004, rated a ton of things and entered my partial collection, then went into perma-lurker mode for a couple years. Sure, I forgot my password for most of that and finally had Aldie help restore it, but I would have been mighty annoyed to find my recorded information gone once I finally did log back in.
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Randy Cox wrote:
No.

People die.


Thanks, Randy,

Like I needed reminding?


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