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Mike K
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I should point out that I've only read the rulebook; I've never played or even seen the game. With that said ...


If I'm not mistaken, the Joinery gives you 5/6/7 Francs for 1/2/3 wood. I interpret that to mean that your first wood gives 5 Francs, with your second and third wood netting 1 Franc each.

If that's the case, why would anyone give up those 2nd and 3rd wood chits?
 
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They have a huge excess or they need the extra 2 Francs to cover for a food shortage? Late in games I've seen the wood offer get quite large. However I'm with you. If using the Joinery I ususally sell just 1 wood.


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There's also something to be said for maximizing that action. Sure there are other ways to get money on later turns, but that requires the use of another action.
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sefton wrote:
There's also something to be said for maximizing that action. Sure there are other ways to get money on later turns, but that requires the use of another action.
that's exactly the reason. Especially in 4 or 5 player games when you're only getting 1 or 2 actions a round. Making optimal use of your actions is much more important than trying to squeeze every Franc you can out of your wood.
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What the three above me said. a) One action only, b) you may well have more wood than you need, c) You may be desperate for that extra Franc or two.
 
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I've noticed in the few games that I have played that Joinery has never been used by anybody. If it gets built early enough then it seems as though it might be worth using, but later in the game it doesn't seem powerful enough compared to other choices you may have. Do others use it regularly?
 
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I saw it get used in the last two games I played, used it myself in one of them.
 
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JimF wrote:
I've noticed in the few games that I have played that Joinery has never been used by anybody. If it gets built early enough then it seems as though it might be worth using, but later in the game it doesn't seem powerful enough compared to other choices you may have. Do others use it regularly?


Like most early buildings, the usefulness of the Joinery fades fast. As soon as a special building offering Francs becomes available it will be preferable. The reason to use the Joinery in the early game is because other than the Franc offer space and selling buildings it is the only way to raise cash. This is a good way to buy a Wooden Ship if the Wharves are buried, or to buy up buildings that can be very useful to own, like the Construction Firm. With more players the Joinery sees more use since it's less often you'll have an opportunity to take Francs.

The problem I see with the Joinery is that the cost is high. Wood is a valuable resource early in the game, and nearly worthless late (unless you plan to turn it into charcoal). With no entry fee I could see the Joinery as a decent action but at a cost of 1 food you are only really gaining 3 by using it (+5 -1 entry, -1 wood) assuming the Wood is worth 1 Franc, its shipping value. Owning it makes the action palatable but there should nearly always be something better if you do not own it.
 
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