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Frank Hussey
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I'm looking for advice on what next Euro games I should buy. There are a number which look interesting, but not very many have convinced me recently. Part of the problem is that I have just enough games that I've got a few auction games, I've got a few area control games, etc. and to get another game with similar mechanisms I want it to really distinguish itself.

For reference, my favorite non-wargames have been: Roborally, Fearsome Floors, Pandemic, Hansa, Dungeon Twister, El Grande and Traders of Genoa (but only one play of that). I also enjoy Princes of Florence, Agricola, Galaxy Trucker and Power Grid. Oh, and I loved the one crayon rail game I got to play.
Games I'm looking forward to getting include Steam, Tales of the Arabian Nights, Lords of the Spanish Main, and anything by Friedmann Friese.

I love novelty and innovation in a game and I tend a little more to the tactical than strategic. Games I'm considering are Mykerinos, Confucius, Master Builder and A Castle For All Seasons. So I'd love to hear comments on those games but I'm very open to other suggestions. Thanks much for your advice!
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Your list (and your ratings) are devoid of worker placement or role selection games, so it might be worth checking one out just to see if you enjoy the genre. Puerto Rico, Race for the Galaxy, Caylus Magna Carta, or Agricola could all be places to start.
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Thanks Chris. Unfortunately, my ratings are a bit out of date and I've played lots of stuff I haven't rated yet.

I do own Caylus and Agricola and like both of those -- though I haven't got to play Caylus nearly enough to be sure what I think. No need to buy Puerto Rico as several friends own it. And I'm one of those strange creatures who was left unmoved by Race for the Galaxy.

I do like the worker placement mechanic just fine though, and some of the games I'm looking at use that.
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Hermagor is a great game that is pretty different from anything you list. And from anything else. There are some similarites to Elfenland, but I much prefer Hermagor. The players aquire goods in a market mini game first (I really like this part) and then try to deliver these goods on a map as economically as possible (the players want to move as short distances as possible). The competetion for the wares is fierce, and there are many ways to score points with the players having to balance between concentrating in a few areas or picking a few points here and there.

Really good game and quite unique. thumbsup
 
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Just a comment about Mykerinos as well (which is the only game of the one you mention that I have tried).

This is a very clean design with a very thin attachment to theme. This is the poster boy of the euro "cube pusher" if there ever was one. It is a fairly clever area majority game which does manage to feel pretty different and also plays rather quickly. This game should never play over an hour, even with five players. The players try to achieve majority on some small desert tiles and also try to get their "finds" (cubes) into the museum for display. This requires some clever play using powers given by different characters.

I like the game, but the theme was too obviously pasted on for me. It actually felt a bit abstract, and I don't like that. If that is no problem for you I would recommend it, since it is very balanced and rewards good play and does this in an hour.

Edit.(I likes the game...) Oops, my Gollum ancestry shows itself!
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Of the four games you listed as considering I have only played Mykerinos. I didn't like it, it seemed to me as if it wasn't one thing or the other.
Games you may want to check out then would be In the year of the Dragon which isn't quite the standard Euro fare. Also check out In the shadow of the Emperor which has some neat things going on.
A castle for all seasons looks like an updated version of Pillars of the earth, which is a good worker placement, either try it or Cuba.
A good game that's always overlooked is Tempus by Martin Wallace, once you look past the whole building up a civ thing it's a good game.
Depending on your group Thurn and taxis may be too light, if so try Rheinlander, an early Knizia with some good scoring mechanics
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I don't see Stone Age listed anywhere here, so I feel compelled to add it. Great game.

As above, In the Year of the Dragon is also fun, and quite different than your usual fare.
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Heliconia wrote:
Of the four games you listed as considering I have only played Mykerinos. I didn't like it, it seemed to me as if it wasn't one thing or the other.
Games you may want to check out then would be In the year of the Dragon which isn't quite the standard Euro fare. Also check out In the shadow of the Emperor which has some neat things going on.
A castle for all seasons looks like an updated version of Pillars of the earth, which is a good worker placement, either try it or Cuba.
A good game that's always overlooked is Tempus by Martin Wallace, once you look past the whole building up a civ thing it's a good game.
Depending on your group Thurn and taxis may be too light, if so try Rheinlander, an early Knizia with some good scoring mechanics


I must agree upon most games suggested by Heliconia, especially Pillars of the Earth, Cuba and In the Shadow of the Emperor.
 
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I must agree upon most games suggested by Heliconia, ... In the Shadow of the Emperor.


Already on his owned list.
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Hermagor is a game I'd recommend

you like RoboRally, I think Space Alert would be a hit

you like Pandemic, I'd recommend Ghost Stories

you should have a worker placement game, Le Havre, Agricola are 2 of the best.

I have not played any of the games on your list

best of luck
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Thanks guys!

Yeah, I didn't list Shadow of the Emperor but it's also one I quite like -- just haven't played it in too long.

I enjoy both light and heavy games but Thurn & Taxis, while a solid game, just didn't particularly catch my interest. I've got a friend who owns it and that's good enough.

I don't doubt that Tempus isn't one of Wallace's strongest games but I agree that it's still pretty great. It's not a favorite but I've had a few really fun games with it. I just always wish the advancements had more impact -- but if they did it would probably be unbalancing. Sorry to get all wishy-washy there, but I'm pretty wishy-washy on the game. I've played games of it where I felt somewhat in control of my destiny and others where I felt I was just flailing.

The only other Wallace I've played is the giant Conquest of the Empire version of his Struggle of Empires. I've liked that but haven't got to play it much due to the giant board and my medium size table. It's amazing how the map doesn't have enough space for where the action is actually happening (usually around Italy) even though it is this ginormous board.

Hermigor and In the Year of the Dragon both sound like good suggestions. I'll read up on them. Ghost Stories also sounds interesting as does Red November.

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What about Kingsburg? http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/27162.

It's really tactical and with much less luck factor than Stone Age.
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My personal advice is for Confucius: mechanics are nothing new but the way all elements interact and especially the rules for gifts make this a very good strategic game. A warning don't try this with new or inexperienced gamers.
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Pennicillina wrote:
My personal advice is for Confucius: mechanics are nothing new but the way all elements interact and especially the rules for gifts make this a very good strategic game. A warning don't try this with new or inexperienced gamers.


Don't know about this game... what kind of game it is? Does it have a page here on boardgamegeek?
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Yes, it has a page. That's what the helpful search function at the top of the page is for. For you, Drachenäscht in Bern have a copy on the shelf.

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Good god...two suggestions of Hermagor. Clearly, some people like it. I'd rather EAT the game than play it again. Then again, I'll eat anything.

If you like Roborally, see if you can get a copy of Factory Fun.
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futhee wrote:
Good god...two suggestions of Hermagor. Clearly, some people like it. I'd rather EAT the game than play it again. Then again, I'll eat anything.


Also: it's made of cheese.
 
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DBliny wrote:
Pennicillina wrote:
My personal advice is for Confucius: mechanics are nothing new but the way all elements interact and especially the rules for gifts make this a very good strategic game. A warning don't try this with new or inexperienced gamers.


Don't know about this game... what kind of game it is? Does it have a page here on boardgamegeek?


Here it is http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/32014
 
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Yeah, Confucius looks really clever to me.

And I'd LOVE to get Factory Fun. But I think it is long OOP.

I think the name of Kingsburg just sounded like "generic eurogame" to me and so I hadn't been interested. But I'll check it out.

Thanks again to everyone!
 
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