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Subject: Cut Purse and Begging Monk rss

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Rocco Atamatozzi
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I've yet to purchase, but read the fantastic reviews here. I don't understand, however, the text for the cards mentioned above.

How much is actually stolen from your opponents when using each role?
 
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the begging monk steals on fourth of their spell components (rounded down) and the cutpurse steals one third of their gold (rounded down).

it is a really tight game.
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Correct, as stated above by artmark. However...

This partly belongs in the strategy section, but his response applies only for "the full action" of the role.
If you have the same (matching) card and play it after someone else has declared it to be their (potential full action) role, you can instead say "so be it" and instead lose one less gold piece (if a Cutpurse was matched) or lose one less ingredient (for matching a Begging Monk).
Since it is either 1/4 of spell components, you lose no components (in the case of the Begging Monk) by saying "so be it" when you also possess from 1 to 7 ingredients, or no gold when you possess from 1 to 5 gold nuggets and being able to say "so be it" to the Cutpurse.

This is because the amounts lost to the winning player are rounded down. A third of five gold nuggets is still only one (six to eight would be two) and you lose one less, so none.
Likewise, a quarter of seven ingredients is still only one (eight to eleven would be two) and you lose one less, so none.

This also illustrates a good use of "so be it". Instead of taking the chance of being matched after your card is announced, and then losing the full amount because of it, you allow the original person to take the full role and give them nothing, or at least very little.
The rest of the players are penalized fully (to your probable benefit) and the original player has to lead a card from his hand on the next round.
It's usually best to not have to go first...
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MABBY wrote:


This also illustrates a good use of "so be it". ... the original player has to lead a card from his hand on the next round.
It's usually best to not have to go first...


This is the strongest value of the "so be it" choice in my opinion. Sure with any card you get less stuff, but you also don't go first (in which you pretty much lose the next card)

-Munch "opting not to go first is a good move" Wolf
 
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We had the situation where the Begging Monk's cards had run out before the last few rounds of the game. We decided that it was still legitimate to play the Monk, to no personal benefit but to other players' detriment.

Was that the right call?
 
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Tycho wrote:
We had the situation where the Begging Monk's cards had run out before the last few rounds of the game. We decided that it was still legitimate to play the Monk, to no personal benefit but to other players' detriment.

Was that the right call?


Yes. When a stack is gone, the play is legal, but you get no benefit from it.
 
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This happened to me for the first time today. So just to be sure - other players are still required to place money or ingredients on the 'top card' even though there is no card left?
 
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