Please note that the second meeting in March 2009 will be held on 28/3/2009 (i.e. 7/3/2009 & 28/3/2009) and BOTH meetings will be held at Wanchai Mess. For April, there is only one meeting at HITEC on 18/4/2009 and the Annual General Meeting will be held on 9/5/2009 at Wanchai Mess!
We shall hold our competitions in March and April meetings. The current proposal is to have 2 boards competitions and 2 figures competitions this year. We would like to know the competitions our members are interested in and are open to suggestions. Please nominate any proposal by sending me a email on or before 16/2/2009.
For figures competitions, current nominations include 15mm DBMM &/or 15mm Warmaster Ancients (in which I have seen a number of our members playing) &/or 15mm DBR competitions &/or 10mm Warmaster Fantasy competition.
For boards competitions, current nominations include Memoirs'44, Advanced Squad Leader/Advanced Squad Leader Starter Kits, Command & Colors Ancients, Manoeuvre (A Napoleonic card game by GMT), Combat Commanders.
It is likely that we shall decide the competitions to be held by members voting via email.
The next meeting will be held at the HITEC Centre of Kowloon Bay (7th floor, i.e. same floor as last time) on Saturday 21/2/2009. For indication, we have the following games hosted (subject to amendment and cancellation by the organiser):
(1) Advanced Squad Leader Starter Kit (organiser: Lawrence Ho) (1 table)
participants: Li Tai Wah, Lawrence Ho
(As ever, if you don't have a confirmed game, come along anyway, and a spot will be found for you in whatever is going on.
So far, 2 Members confirmed they will come: Lawrence Ho, Li Tai Wah,
Maximum no. of tables : 12, estimated no. of tables needed: 1 table
0 Visitor confirmed they will come:
Any other proposals?
The next meeting will be held at the Senior Police Officers' Mess, Wanchai on Saturday 7 Mar., 2009 The following persons have plan (subject to change) of playing the followings:
(1) Advanced Squad Leader (organiser: Lai Lap Wan)
Participants: Li Tai Wah, Anthony Leung, Simon Lai, Lai Lap Wan
As Lai Lap Wan told me that Simon & him has already played J52,
they suggest to play J53 instead (dont take the OP radio choices...)
Other possible scenarios remained unchanged:
Schwerpunkt SP152 Nova Buda Butte (oh the SS were immature 548/447 but we have those black 548/447 counters...)
Schwerpunkt SP115 (oops this one is British but then not much difference from East Front... )
J53: Map 33, 44 with overlay x12, x13, Wd3
SP152: Map 4, 16, 44, 46
SP115: Map 22
Li Tai Wah to bring the counters, Lawrence Ho to bring the mapboards, Simon Lai to bring the rulebook. I shall arrive at 12:30 p.m. with the above special mapboards:
(2) Command & Colors Ancients Boardgame Competition (organiser: Lawrence Hung)
Please refer to Lawrence Hung for details of the compeition, draft rules as follows:
Participants: James Cheung, Lawrence Ho, Frankie Li, Thunder Wong, David White, Andrzej Cierpicki, Lee LaFond, Nick Alter, Christopher Chu, Alex Lam
(3) 15mm DBMM game - Byzantines v Seljuq Turks. (organiser: Douglas Thomson)
Participants: Douglas Thomson, Ken Mckenzie.
There will be 6 to 8 commands available and they have 5 players so far. So if you are interested to join this game, contact Douglas and Ken.
As ever, if you don't have a confirmed game, come along anyway, and a spot will be found for you in what ever is going on.
So far, 16 members confirmed that they will come: Lawrence Ho, Lai Lap Wan, Simon Lai, Anthony Leung, James Cheung, Li Tai Wah, Thunder Wong, Christopher Chu, Frankie Li, David White, Andrzej Cierpicki, Nick Alter, Li LaFond, George Wellington, Ken McKenzie, Douglas Thomson, Alex Lam
0 Visitor confirmed they will come:
Any other proposals?
- Last edited Thu Mar 5, 2009 12:40 pm (Total Number of Edits: 1)
- Posted Wed Mar 4, 2009 2:07 pm
Lawrence Hung suggest we follow the tournament rules as follows:
The first 2 rounds will actually be a round robin, like the soccer league. Players will be broken into groups of 4 (depending on numbers of the C&C games available, we may have 2 groups of 6). You will play every one in your group once (3 people if in the group of 4 or 5 people if in the group of 6). The top and the first runner-up will advance into the third round.
The third round is a single knockout play - 4 will advance to the fourth round.
The fourth round is a single knockout play - 2 will advance to the final round.
The final round is a 2 out of 3 game. The one who is the first to win the second game is the Champion.
The elimination round will be a strict ladder (1 plays 8, 2 plays 7). Assignment to a ladder position will be semi-random. All 3-0 winners in the round robin will be randomly assigned the top positions.
So a Champion is to play 7 games in total to claim the throne of Hong Kong Command and Colors: Ancients.
I will prepare the ladders chart. The first round grouping is randomly determined.
The rules assumes we have 4 copies of the games. So would members please confirm if they would bring their games to the event. Lawrence Ho and I will bring our copy.
Scenarios in each stage should be the same. Each player should put the pieces back into their starting location on the board for next player before he leaves the seat.
Side selection was handled by players bidding complete battle dice re-rolls they were willing to give their opponent which could be used at any time.
Group stage scenario: Romans and Carthaginians module - Official Scenario 3: Bagradas Carthaginians vs Romans 253 BC. Each player get the chance to play both sides in this stage.
Third round scenario: Greece and the Eastern Kingdoms expansion module - Official Scenario 37: Gabiene Successors (Antigonus) vs Successors (Eumenes) 316 BC.
Fourth round scenario: Command and Colors: Ancients base game Official Scenario 5: Cannae Carthaginians vs Romans 216 BC
Final round scenario: Greece and the Eastern Kingdoms expansion module - Official Scenario 32: Gaugamela Macedonians vs Persians 331 BC
The above scenario selection basically follows that of the 2008 World Boardgaming Championship. They are fairly balanced scenarios from statistics. Choosing sides follows the rules stated.
Please bring your copy of the games to the venue (i.e. if you have them). That makes the event more flexible. I hope you can enjoy a good and fun, fair and articulate competition!
If you have any question, please raise it here or email me.
Scenario 3: Bagradas Carthaginians vs Romans 253 BC
Scenario 37: Gabiene Successors (Antigonus) vs Successors (Eumenes) 316 BC:
Scenario 5: Cannae Carthaginians vs Romans 216 BC
Scenario 32: Gaugamela Macedonians vs Persians 331 BC
Rules on Choosing Sides:
Both players will roll all seven dice. The player who rolls the most leader symbols will have the choice to bid first or second; if the number of leader symbols is tied, re-roll until there is not a tie. What you are bidding is the number of complete battle dice re-rolls you will give your opponent so that you can play the desired side. Zero is a valid bid. When a player does not want to raise the bid, the bidding is over and that player takes the other side and is now allowed to cause the bid number of complete battle dice re-rolls at any time during the game.
Each complete battle dice re-roll means whoever just rolled the dice must roll all of the dice over again. You can re-roll your own die roll or force your opponent to re-roll either can be on an initial attack or a battle-back. It is only just the dice rolled and all must be re-rolled so you can not wait to see what happens on the elephant re-roll of sword hits to decide to cause a re-roll. You would have to decide just knowing
Group assignments for the Group Stage will be started at 12:30 pm with a raffle draw. If you arrive after that time, you may be forced to play in a group with your friends. Once all group assignments are complete, no latecomers will be accepted.
In the single elimination stage, if you need a short break arrange it with your opponent before leaving the tournament area. If no arrangements are made, you will have 5 minutes to appear once a round is started or you will forfeit.
The first game of each round robin will be alloted a 15 minute set up time. Each additional game will be allowed 10 minutes for set-up. Each game will be played to a strict 1 hour time limit. When time is called, the current turn for both players can be finished (under a one minute time limit to pick a card). The game will be decided by victory banners captured at that time; ties can occur.
The players are free to agree who plays which side. If both players want to play the same side, the following bidding procedure will be used.
All games will be ended after a set time limit; adjudication rules are given in the tournament format above.