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I just cracked open SPI War of the Ring and the event cards had been bundled with rubber bands. They were more dried than sticky, I was able to peel them off the cards without doing damage. But sometimes rubber gets nasty gummy.

From now on its ziplock bags...
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...or poly bands. They don't age and stick like rubber bands.

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HAH! laugh I just opened up my Statis Pro Baseball after about 15+ years. I had all the teams individually "banded".

Needless to say, every band deteriorated into crumbs and the hundreds of cards were strewn throughout the box.

A lesson learned, eh?
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It sucks as well to open a "brand new game" (2009) which also uses rubber bands to store the paper goods and find a "rubber band valley" permanently etched. This happens often enough.

GOOD TIP: Poke a hole in your baggies (get a hole punch if possible).
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Gronak wrote:
I just cracked open SPI War of the Ring and the event cards had been bundled with rubber bands. They were more dried than sticky, I was able to peel them off the cards without doing damage. But sometimes rubber gets nasty gummy.

From now on its ziplock bags...


Try this stuff - Wonder Tape.

http://www.clotilde.com/detail.html?prod_id=204

Basically wraps around the cards and holds with static charge or something. Others on BGG have referred to it by a different name, but it works the same.

Holds card very secure, and over a large area causing no damage. My wife had a roll and I've sworn off rubber bands. Cut it length wise, an 8" strip holds even a large deck of cards. A little pricey but worth it. You can also use it for emergency hose repairs in the car too.


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Liumas wrote:
GOOD TIP: Poke a hole in your baggies (get a hole punch if possible).

Why?

Is it some reason related to moisture/humidity or something?
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Gronak wrote:
From now on its ziplock bags...

There's a website with a DIY tuck box tool I've been using to store all my cards. I've also seen more than a couple of deteriorating bands...
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cbs42 wrote:
Liumas wrote:
GOOD TIP: Poke a hole in your baggies (get a hole punch if possible).

Why?

Is it some reason related to moisture/humidity or something?


It's easier to stuff flat if there's a hole in it. I always want a little hole in all my baggies.

I'd be so bold as to say that you're safe using rubber band for games that you play often. The rubber bands will break LONG before they can cause any damage.

The problem is with games that you might leave untouched for a year or so. For a rubber band, going from "starting to get dry" to "stick to cards" takes about a year or so, I reckon.

My problem with baggies is that they're so frigging ugly. I hate transparent soft plastic. Lucks so frigging tacky. I'd much more like some paper equivalent of rubber bands.
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HAH! laugh I just opened up my Statis Pro Baseball after about 15+ years. I had all the teams individually "banded".

Needless to say, every band deteriorated into crumbs and the hundreds of cards were strewn throughout the box.

A lesson learned, eh?

Had the same with Statis Pro Football, but to make it worse was a combination of teams from different years. I've not been able to face sorting them out again...
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My problem with baggies is that they're so frigging ugly. I hate transparent soft plastic. Lucks so frigging tacky. I'd much more like some paper equivalent of rubber bands.


Tuckboxes?
 
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I've started using Hugo's Amazing tape (vinyl, peels off and can be cut to any size).

www.amazingtape.com.
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Haven't used rubber bands in years. Ziplock everything.
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...or use hair band elastics. They are covered with woven cloth material, won't ever stick to cards, and won't deteriorate like rubber bands.

And, unlike plastic bags, they allow the cards to breath, reducing warping, maintaining flexibility, and extending the lifespan and vibrancy of inks and coatings. You wouldn't store an acoustic guitar or violin in a plastic baggie, would you?
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>You wouldn't store an acoustic guitar or violin in a plastic baggie, would you?

Aside from sticking to the finish, sure. It will maintain exactly the same moisture level; so if it is correct when bagged it will remain so. No chance of absorbing too much & getting moldy or becoming dried out.
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Yes Chris. Moisture can't be avoided, even from our fingers.

I used to not seal the baggies so as not to seal in moisture. Now I punch a hole and zip it up. You'll thank me years later.

cbs42 wrote:
Liumas wrote:
GOOD TIP: Poke a hole in your baggies (get a hole punch if possible).

Why?

Is it some reason related to moisture/humidity or something?
 
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Zimeon wrote:
cbs42 wrote:
Liumas wrote:
GOOD TIP: Poke a hole in your baggies (get a hole punch if possible).

Why?

Is it some reason related to moisture/humidity or something?


It's easier to stuff flat if there's a hole in it. I always want a little hole in all my baggies.


I, on the other hand, like my bags whole since then you can squeeze most of the air out and get a quasi-vacuum-packed result. Keeps counters/cards/etc in a nice solid block.


I'm guessing that the moisture issue depends on your climate. If your air is dry and hands are sweaty, then I would probably concur with the long-term benefits of a punctured bag. Being in the middle of a subtropical summer at the moment, I tend to be more of the "the less air in the bag the better" opinion.

Then again, I'm open to reading and learning from more empirical accounts of long-term games storage
 
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Hair bands work fairly well - ie: what people use to put hair in pony tails. You can get some thin ones, and because they are covered in some fabric they protect the cards a little more and won't damage them over time.
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I just use cardboard boxes and tuckboxes. Make sure you pad the box if it isn't full. Cards will fall over into empty space and bend out of shape. Not sure how long that takes, but it does happen.
 
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Another vote for Hugo's Amazing Tape.
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I'm all for the Amazing Tape as a great idea, and a well-marketed one... but for me, simple hairbands in the beauty section of any pharmacy or department store (or dollar store) work fine. They cost about $1 USD for about 20 of them. If the ones without metal clasps, there is no chance of rust, plus the ones without metal are actually stronger. They have thread around the elastic, so there is no chance of rubber-band gumminess. And, again, this is a very affordable solution.

The range in size from a few inches in diameter for cards, to large ones of about 12" in diameter which expand to cover most board game boxes.
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I, on the other hand, like my bags whole since then you can squeeze most of the air out and get a quasi-vacuum-packed result. Keeps counters/cards/etc in a nice solid block.

Hi Markus - I easily squeeze the air of bags with 'poked holes' and I find it much easier to do so when the bag has air holes. The bags always pack flatter and lay better in the box as I can now actually almost completely remove all excess air.

I've gotten so used to this in fact that recently when I was sealing up some food stuffs inside FREEZER BAGS I subconsciously reached for the hole punch so as to get the bag flatter. Not a good plan...

 
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I don't mind using plastic bags, but using Ziploc bags does look tacky.

I've looked in local stores but can't seem to find bags like the ones that came with Agricola.
 
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apotheos wrote:
I don't mind using plastic bags, but using Ziploc bags does look tacky.

I've looked in local stores but can't seem to find bags like the ones that came with Agricola.


Walmart, in their craft section, sells bags similar to what the game manufacturers use. The come in three different sizes, one of which is so small it's only good for itsy-bitsy old-school wargame counters.
 
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LordBobbio wrote:
apotheos wrote:
I don't mind using plastic bags, but using Ziploc bags does look tacky.

I've looked in local stores but can't seem to find bags like the ones that came with Agricola.


Walmart, in their craft section, sells bags similar to what the game manufacturers use. The come in three different sizes, one of which is so small it's only good for itsy-bitsy old-school wargame counters.


Dollarama boys, Dollarama.

(Caveat: dollar store rubber bands break in two mere months after purchase. But the baggies seem good, quality-wise.)
 
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Boards and bits also have a wide range of sizes of plastic bags available. Some of them are a little flimsy, but most are okay. The 4x5" ones are particularly useful for cards.

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