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Subject: Richthofens Roland 2 Seater rss

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Thor Jensen
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The plane "only" has 1 machinegun, to compensate for this it has a wider firing arch, so far so good.

But its the observer which has the gun, and observers can be shot, leaving the plane with no guns at all. I realise this is the most realistic thing, if you look at the history books, but in game terms its not that good an idea.

Has anyone found a way to tackle this problem? Or do you all just play with the "normal" 2 seaters?

-Thor
 
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Jeff Yeackle
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Since the Roland isn't really meant to be a dogfighter, it's better used for scenarios that include bombing, reconnaissance, land & drop off/pickup or where it must be protected by other planes.

If your pilot is really cavalier he could also act as a blocker once the co-pilot bites it (which is slightly less painful than just getting the explosion card), and if you're playing with collision rules there's always ramming too.

If you did want a dog fight, you could pair the Roland up with another fighter with a narrow front arc, against something like a stray DH4 with A/A or A/B guns, whichever seemed more fair.
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Andrew Philipson
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I used mine just this past weekend. I was introducing some new friends to the game, so I made up a scenario where my Roland, with 2 B-firing escorts, needed to recon a town guarded by A- and B-firing allied planes.

Seemed to work out fine! But, as Jeff mentioned, I definitely would NOT use the Roland in a straight-up dogfight!
 
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Kevin Duke
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Keep in mind that the Roland is a "dinosaur" compared to the rest of the planes we have miniatures for.

It should properly be working with the Halberstadt D on its side, fighting against DH2s, N-11s, and maybe N-17s. When you factor in the poor performance of the Lewis guns on those planes (with a 46 round ammo drum), the Roland starts looking like a studly plane, even without a front MG.
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Thor Jensen
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Ah righto.

I hate being so new to WWI planes....i feel like a newb
 
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Andrew Hurp
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kduke wrote:
Keep in mind that the Roland is a "dinosaur" compared to the rest of the planes we have miniatures for.

Don't forget these were still in the skies until Autumn 1917 - but yes, they were outclassed by the Allied planes of the time.
This was actually the first 2-seater miniture I bought, purely because of it's single gun - I felt it was a much more interesting plane to fly because of this. It may not be as good, but I'll be using it in scenarios and balanced multi-player fights (and delibertly unbalanced games as well).
Just think of the different strategic choices you are having to make with this plane.
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Todd France
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Also, I seem to recall that there were altitude rules for the Roland that allowed a 360 firing arc at targets of higher elevation. That would be another nice benefit.
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