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George Leach
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Hi,
I'm just creeping into the wargaming scene through the joys of Combat Commander and I'm wondering where UK wargamers source their essentials. I'm after:
- Perspex to cover the CC maps and keep them flat.
- Counter trays to organise all the various unit types so I can setup quicker.
- How to rid the counters of their tatty corners? Clipping perhaps but with what?
- Anything else you consider useful or essential for ease of setup or play...

Cheers.
 
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Andy Parsons
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My tip for the sheet of clear plastic to cover your maps is to go to your local art shop and buy a large, cheap clip together frame. Dismantle it and you'll have something very suitable.

I use grip top bags rather than counter trays. They're cheaply bought by the thousand from internet retailers. This thread should tell you all you need to know about counter clipping....

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/407494/page/1

Now, can anyone point me in the direction of a quality dice tower from a UK supplier?
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Russell Collingham
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i agree with Andy, I got a cheap clip picture frame from Homebase, the perspex sheet was perfect for keeping maps flat. I'm a bagger too, and i got large bags from a pound shop - sealable freezer bags. I got smaller bags from my wife who ahem works in a Uni lab...

To hold the cards in Combat Commander I printed off some of the tuckboxes someone had added to the files section, on a colour laser. Then glued onto thicker paper, folded, and held in place with double sided tape. If i don't have boxes then i bag the cards, never use elastic bands.

Oh and a cold double sided sticky laminator is great for protecting play aids!
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George Leach
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Good call on the clip frames, however I'm fairly sure they're usually glass which I would break eventually. I've currently got the counters in baggies but I'd like to separate them by unit type not just country and if I were to do that with baggies it'd be just too fiddly.

Off to go read that counter clipping thread...
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James Hamilton
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You can buy perspex sheet at any DIY store. The only possible issue is that it tends to come in rather large sizes.
 
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George Leach
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Cheers Hammy,

That's what I was worried about. My opinion is that any games with huge maps are likely to take too long for my liking so a smaller piece would be preferable.

No suggestions for a source of counter trays yet then?

The thread on counter clipping convinced me to get the nail clippers out some time in the future.
 
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I got my perspex at a signmaker's. Probably more expensive, but cut to any size you like. I got 4 sheets at 2'x3' to cover my 4'x6' table - any bigger gets awkward to move around, as it is I usually only use 2 sheets.

And buy the bigger toenail clippers - small ones are painful after a few hundred counters. cry
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Jugular wrote:
Good call on the clip frames, however I'm fairly sure they're usually glass which I would break eventually.


Agreed, glass would not be good. You've just not been going downmarket enough in your frame buying.

I've discovered that Leisure Games sells Chessex counter trays, £2:50 each.
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I know for a fact that Spirit Games have counter trays, as I spotted them the other day. Not sure of prices.

Personally I use craft storage boxes from Hobbycraft. They do their own named range in various sizes - all with hinged lids. I think prices range from less than £1 to over £4. The only problem with the larger ones is that they're often too deep to fit in the game box (if that matters to you).

I just happen to have a few lying around as I've just used the largest one for housing my infantry, cavalry and artillery-meeples for Waterloo. Sizes are as follows:

9 x 17 x 3cm (15 compartments)
11 x 23 x 3cm (18 compartments)
18 x 27 x 4cm (18 compartments)
22 x 35 x 5cm (24 compartments) - the largest size

I think they do a couple of other sizes.
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I've bought counter trays from Leisuregames in the past, though stock to the UK tends to be erratic...
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As others have said, poster / clip frames are a good way to go. I bought a few from Athena (perspex not glass), even though they were a little pricey at £24. There must be other places that sell them though (and probably cheaper). The size I bought was approximately 92cm x 61cm and 1mm thick (24" x 36"). A standard 22" x 34" map fits in very nicely with about 2.5-3cm of space all the way around. Poster frames have the added advantage of being easy to move should you require your table for some other use.

If you want to buy a sheet of perspex, most decent sized DIY places stock it. I bought one sheet (61cm x 120cm / 24" x 47") from Homebase, which I think cost £14.99. I recommend getting a 2mm thick piece for the extra weight.

For counter trays I use the storage containers designed for nuts and bolts, etc. The ones I've found have movable dividers and can be securely fastened to avoid a big sorting out job when they're accidentally dropped on the floor. These can be bought at most DIY places.

For cutting away the corners of the counters use a nail clipper. If you want greater precision, cut the corner off the bottom part of a CD case to create a jig.

If you have a scanner, then I recommend scanning all of the play aids and printing them out on card. This is the best protection for play aids.
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I got a 3' sq sheet of plexiglas from Master Plastics (SW) Ltd
http://www.fascias.co.uk/index.html?target=dept_225.html&lan...
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I got a sheet of some perspex like glazing material at B&Q for £15 - it is just over 22" * 34" which seems to be the standard wargame map size.

It does seem to scratch easily though, but at least the game is safe. Storage is not so easy, getting a framed version would be easier in this respect.
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Andy Parsons wrote:


Now, can anyone point me in the direction of a quality dice tower from a UK supplier?


http://www.terrascenic-online.co.uk/acatalog/Paint_Rack_and_...
Basic

http://www.boardgameguru.co.uk/bling-my-board-8-c.asp
Pretty

http://www.leisuregames.com/acatalog/Main_Catalogue_ACCESSOR...
Basic and the same page has counter trays.

As with everything in the UK its never cheap.
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Jugular wrote:
Good call on the clip frames, however I'm fairly sure they're usually glass which I would break eventually.


Nope I bought one the other month from an art shop which had some going cheap. Thin perspex (1mm I think), 100cm x 70cm, about 14 quid. Plexiglass is exactly the same material as perspex.
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If you're after a cheap dice tower, try this:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/filepage/34099

Only pennies to replace if it breaks too!
 
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Thanks for the replies everyone. I'll be buying some of those chessex counter trays and search out The Works and pound shops for some cheapo picture frames. Good plan on copying the player aids. I should easily find a printers nearby.
 
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And thank you Michael for the links to dice towers.
 
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A good source for counter trays in the UK is the chain of HobbyCraft stores. They sell plastic boxes similar to the Plano boxes that our American cousins are always using. The size I get are about 0.75p each (I used a load for Combat commander and Command and Colours Ancients).

Checkout this picture here for the type of boxes I'm taliking about :
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/image/122926. They have 5 compartments that you can split into 3 with the supplied bits of plastic.

Bargain !

PS I'm also a regualr at Leuisuregames.com and they sell GMT style trays and also a dice tower, but having bought neither I cannot comment on the quality. I have bought the deck boxes from them though and they suffice if you can't be *rsed making tuckboxes.

Buks
 
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