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http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20090527/wl_time/08599190095800

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Last year, Rajendra Pachauri, chairman of the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, suggested that the most useful step ordinary citizens could take to help combat climate change would be to stop eating meat...


Great. Now I have to be a vegan AND have a white roof to prove my love for our planet.

What the hell. What..the..hell.



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How about vegetarian and a light-gray roof? You don't need to change everything at once you know.
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Great, one more thing for vegetarians to hold their noses up over....
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mikoyan wrote:
Great, one more thing for vegetarians to hold their noses up over....

To be honest, vegans have been using the environmental angle on environmentalists for years. I'm not one to throw Green's under the bus, but it is easy to make them squirm when you go after something as fundamental as their diet. It's easy to switch lightbulbs, but not so easy to make a far reaching lifestyle choice like going veg. I consider myself a Green person myself, so my vegan lifestyle complements that way of life nicely. (with nose pointing firmly towards sky),
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Wouldn't it be better if I KILLED the cow and ate him?
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As long as it wasn't replaced with a new calf to waste resources on.
 
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Wouldn't it be better to reduce the population of the Earth so that we use less resources total?

Save a cow, eat a person!
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Orph wrote:
Wouldn't it be better to reduce the population of the Earth so that we use less resources total?

Save a cow, eat a person!


"If we aren't supposed to eat humans, then why are they made of meat?"
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I love my White Castle way too much to ever give up meat, but what about this doesn't make sense?

Agriculture has an effect on the environment. If you're using the products created through agriculture to feed humans directly, the effect is minimized. If you're using those products to sustain animals for food, that's an additional level of waste, no?
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If we truly wanted to eliminate waste, we'd get rid of all things that are non-essential. That would mean no more alcohol, no more cigarettes, no more twinkies, etc etc etc. It's all about deciding how much waste we're willing to put up with to have the things we want.

And I want a hamburger. As do millions of others.
 
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Orph wrote:
If we truly wanted to eliminate waste, we'd get rid of all things that are non-essential. That would mean no more alcohol, no more cigarettes, no more twinkies, etc etc etc. It's all about deciding how much waste we're willing to put up with to have the things we want.

And I want a hamburger. As do millions of others.


You are assuming that a rational decision is being made. Most people don't make consumption decisions based on consequences. Most people don't even know the consequences. Other people who do know the consequences could care less. If slavery was still legal, there would be people who would buy cotton clothing from Walmart without a second thought for the sole reason that it is cheaper when produced by slaves. We already see it with sweat shops, the majority of people do not seek out non-sweat shop clothing as it is more expensive.

Just because you WANT to consume something, doesn't mean you have the right to inflict negative consequences on others to get it. I might want to burn piles of my own excrement in my backyard to save money on my sewer bill, but I don't have the right to inflict the odor and smoke on my neighbors.

If eating burgers gives you heart disease and strips 10-20 years off your lifespan, that is fine with me. It's a decision that only affects you, and maybe your family as they have to live through the pain of losing you earlier than they should have. But when that decision affects people in general, environmentally and health cost wise, then I might make some other constructive suggestions in order to minimize the negative impact you are having on society.
 
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Hey, I'm doing my part by not having kids. I figure that earns me a burger. The exploding population is really the source of this problem anyway.
 
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Orph wrote:
Hey, I'm doing my part by not having kids. I figure that earns me a burger. The exploding population is really the source of this problem anyway.


I really can't argue with you on that point!
 
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