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Subject: Ebayer selling BGG files... again. rss

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Charlie Heckman
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Looks like another auction of BGG Speed Circuit files assembled onto a CD is up for auction at Ebay.

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Is this the one you're talkin' bout?

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=4&cam...|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1205|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50
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I hope you have reported them to eBay?
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Wow,the guts! Let us know if you need any help!

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Charlie Heckman
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reported same guy last time... I guess it had no effect...
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I'm wondering what the actual legality is...it's not like he's pirating the files, since they're available for free. You could say he's charging for the CD itself, and his time in gathering the stuff and putting it onto the CD.

I don't like it, but I doubt there's really that much that can be done.

EDIT: Do questions asked about the listing automatically appear on the page? If they did, you could ask him if the files are available free on BGG.
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Charlie Heckman
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I don't believe questions appear unless the seller selects that option... but I just gave it a try.

& I reported him to Ebay again. I checked their guidelines and he is certainly violating their restrictions on IP infringement. I KNOW the alternate start mechanism is copyrighted.

I will probably begin to add a copyright tag and a "downloaded for FREE from www.boardgamegeek.com" to the tracks that I upload.

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Heckmac wrote:
I don't believe questions appear unless the seller selects that option... but I just gave it a try.

& I reported him to Ebay again. I checked their guidelines and he is certainly violating their restrictions on IP infringement. I KNOW the alternate start mechanism is copyrighted.

I will probably begin to add a copyright tag and a "downloaded for FREE from www.boardgamegeek.com" to the tracks that I upload.

- C


You could also add the copyright and "downloaded for FREE" to your current files while you're at it.
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Unfortunately the seller has to choose to post the question in the listing, it's not automatic.

Did you send the info to the the security email address or just customer service?

Lastly I agree to ading your tag line to each file. Gives more (not that it needs it) credence to the complaint.
 
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The seller responded to my question
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"Thanks for taking the time to write. This package contains items collected over the years from a long defunct internet user group for the original game. I am not aware of your website. My guess is someone purchased this set and uploaded the files onto your site without my knowledge. This is simply an archive of a lot of supplemental material that many people find useful. My intent is to help gamers get more enjoyment from the game and to keep people playing these older games. Maybe a new generation will play less xbox and rediscover these classics. If you're asking about buying this then my advice to anyone is if you're not comfortable with something, just don't buy it."


He did not post the Q and A on the item page for all to see. I did report him to EBay security previously and again this time. I've never received a response from Ebay and don't expect I will.

I do not intend to engage him any more at this point, though I will note that his advertisement says:

"6) SUPER BONUS I now include the entire 2008 season of Tracks!"

This "long defunct" website had the amazing ability to pre-produce a collection of the 2008 tracks... unless his definition of "long defunct" is last year.

Oh well, while I agree with his "high road" sentiments about making the game available, it still bothers me that he is obviously downloading from the Geek and selling to unsuspecting slobs. The inventory of his "item" reads amazingly like the inventory of the BGG Speed Circuit files...
 
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He is selling also my rules for the rain\dry tires...
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Welcome to the REAL world, guys!

People have been selling stuff like on E-bay ever since it started a decade ago. It is not going to stop as long as people are willing to pay for it - which they are.

But if a little whining makes you feel happier... whistle
 
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