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I love this:

http://io9.com/5301898/michael-bay-finally-made-an-art-movie

It almost makes me want to see T2:ROTF
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That review is truly amazing.
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That review is truly amazing.
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So you have a movie that tries to reassure men that they can actually be masters of their reality - but then turns around and says that actually, reality is not real. There's no such thing as the "real world," and the only thing that's left for men to dominate is a nebulous domain of blurred shapes, which occasionally blurt nonsensical swear-words and slang from ethnic groups that have never existed. If you're drowning in an Olympic swimming pool full of hot chewing gum fondue, do you still care if Megan Fox likes you?


Best. Quote from a review. Evah.
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Odd he compares it to the Wachowski's Speed Racer. I actually missed that one in the main theaters due to the TERRIBLE reviews, and caught it in the second run at one of those pub+pizza theaters for cheap. My wife and I both liked it a lot. I honestly didn't get the constant knocking from all sides on how it was just a blur of disjointed images, or difficult to follow characters, or bubblegum pop story. I mean, that's what it was supposed to be, and it did it perfectly.

It's like watching war footage and complaining about the violence, or watching a porno and complaining about the nudity. I mean...that's the point. Not every movie has to be the same depth?

If the new 'Transformers' is like that...uhhh...okay? I mean, it's a 2-hour toy commercial (both micro - Hasbro's plastic figures; and macro - look what the latest and greatest effects in Hollywood can produce today). That was the INTENT of the movie. What did you expect?
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XanderF wrote:
What did you expect?


A plausible plot, with plot points that are related to each other in any way.

Likeable characters that actually develop and are included for a reason other than lazy storytelling to accelerate the plot.

A world that makes sense within its own construct.

John Turturro's dignity still intact (golden shower scene).

A film that doesn't resort to racial stereotyping for cheap gags.

A movie without a creepy makeout scene where the humans are dry-humping on their buddy Bumblebee while Optimus Prime watches.

None of these things were included in the first movie, should I expect better from the sequel?
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Surely you didn't really expect these things, Morgan.
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I saw the first movie on DVD and here is my review: As a movie, it was awful. As a movie about cars and trucks that turn into robots and fight each other, it was awesome!

I'll probably feel the same way about the second one when it comes out on DVD.

I really don't understand people who expect more than bad out of summer action CGI fests.

Don't get me wrong, I love good cinema. But you can't hold these movies up to the same standard. It's like saying you don't like jazz because it's not country.

BTW, Speed racer was a sweet ride too.
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I saw the first movie on DVD and here is my review: As a movie, it was awful. As a movie about cars and trucks that turn into robots and fight each other, it was awesome!

I'll probably feel the same way about the second one when it comes out on DVD.

I really don't understand people who expect more than bad out of summer action CGI fests.

Don't get me wrong, I love good cinema. But you can't hold these movies up to the same standard. It's like saying you don't like jazz because it's not country.

BTW, Speed racer was a sweet ride too.


I agree with this completely, except that:

1) Transformers 1 (and I'm assuming 2) was so much more than just a movie about cars and trucks that transform int robots. It's got some idiot kid and an idiot cop and some idiot computer people all being very unlikable and unfunny. And we're talking lots of extended, painful scenes of unlikeable unfunniness.

2) Being a "reimagining" of a huge (beloved) 80s fad, it should "rekindle" at least some of the feel of the orginal. It did not. Other than Optimus being voiced by the same guy (Peter Cullen rocks!), there was no other transformer that even had a personality, let alone was likeable. I mean go watch any Transfomer G1 clip from on YouTube--Soundwave is awesome, Starscream is awesome, the Dinobots are awesome (I'm talkin a kid in the 80's type awesome), and the movie had none of that.

3) What does it matter how much giant robot action there is in a movie if you can't see any of it. "Hey Sweet! Those two giant blurs of metal just slammed into, a, uh, other blur of metal. WAIT, there's bumblebee, he's that yellow thing right? AWESOME!"

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**I** AM a Transformer!
 
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That was a great review.

I'm not finding any real heartache over Transformers, or the awful looking upcoming GI Joe. Back in the day these were just cartoon shows and even my young mind was geekily deconstructing their realities.

I thought the toys were pretty cool, but the shows were pretty lame. No one ever died despite all of the action, and then I'd flip on Robotech where every episode had to involve some people, or whole cities, being vaporized. That seemed a bit more heavy and real.

Heck, Gummy Bears had far better animation, mythos cohesion and emotional oomph than Transformers or GI Joe ever did.

But really, in the backdrop of all of this was Star Wars and Indiana Jones. That was SERIOUS stuff and made the rest of it seem laughable.

Thankfully those were never despoiled.

oh wait...
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CrankyPants wrote:

I really don't understand people who expect more than bad out of summer action CGI fests.

Don't get me wrong, I love good cinema. But you can't hold these movies up to the same standard. It's like saying you don't like jazz because it's not country.


I love good action movies. Transformers should be held up to the same standard of all of the numerous fantastic action movies that already exist.

What you are saying is that you should accept smooth jazz because all jazz is the same and you just want something on in the background. For people that love jazz, smooth jazz is an atrocity.

I agree with BoB 3K's observations about the film. The action was hard to track and uninteresting.

Plot aside, even the action made little sense. Why would you send the human to the roof to jump in a helicopter when Autobots can't fly to protect him, and Decepticons can easily kill him in the air?

Regardless of all else, do you really want golden shower scenes in your action films?
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sisteray wrote:
Regardless of all else, do you really want golden shower scenes in your action films?


I don't know, are you R. Kelly?


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Bah. It's not even in 3D.

I mean, C'mon.
 
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echoota wrote:
No one ever died despite all of the action, and then I'd flip on Robotech where every episode had to involve some people, or whole cities, being vaporized. That seemed a bit more heavy and real.



Robotech was awesome. Hopefully they don't do some crappy movie of it. I want at least some of my childhood memeroies intact.

Mike
 
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