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Hi,

I'm relatively new to the BGG scene, and I'm trying to put together a smaller collection of diverse games that I can easily look at and choose from for a particular group/situation (or perhaps just toss all in the car and let them choose).

So far I already own:

Carcassonne + Inns & Cathedrals - easy to learn rules, light strategy, purely tile placement
Agricola - longer to learn, worker placement/resource management, heavier strategy, and not for shorter sessions

I'd like to add 3 or so more games to this starting set to so I have a basic representation of different difficulties and styles of gaming before I let my collection grow too much. If you have a 5 game set that works on its own without the ones I already have, I'm just as interested in what you have to say.

What I'm considering (and haven't played):
Pandemic - Recommended co-op, without need for character/story setups
Race for the Galaxy or Tigris & Euphrates - lighter to medium rules with emerging deep complexity as you play
Wits & Wagers - Accessible party game that's not devoid of any strategy

What do you think?
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Welcome to BGG!

Sorry! Sliders is an enjoyable change of pace.

Tiki Topple is an unusual design that is fun to play.


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I currently am kind of in the same boat as you and have 7 games right now.

Pandemic - Cooperative game everyone wins everyone loses easy to learn.

Shadows over Camelot - Cooperative game with traitor, more stuff going on hard for new users to get into I would say but I think if I had to choose I would choose this over pandemic.

Catan - Great game resource trading fairly simple to pick up. great game to have around people have loved it.

Wits & Wagers - my favorite party game, when people want to play apples to apples and others like that I suggest we play wits and wagers.

1960: The Making of the President - great starter two player game is my favorite right now.

Vegas Showdown - Bidding mechanic, and everyone builds on their own casino, really fun game

Agricola - Picked it up because it was the #1 game on BGG, its a long game that is harder to teach people, I find that this game hasnt come out much.

So far these games have been able to handle numerous different amounts of players as well as people wanting different things out of the gaming nights we have. I would definately add wits and wagers to your selection.


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Race and Tigris and Euphrates are pretty different. Race has a steep learning curve with all the icons, but once you internalize them (2-3 games usually), it plays in 30-45 minutes and isn't all that heavy. Tigris and Euphrates has a lot more strategic depth and will take around 90 minutes even once you know what you are doing. I like both of them, but if I was going to recommend one I'd go with Race.

I'd look for a bidding game and a press-your-luck game to round things out a bit. Ra actually has a bit of both and is one of my favorites.
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    Agricola is going to bust your bank account. Instead, pick up Coloretto, Loot, Bang!, and Wings of War: Famous Aces for the same or less money. Significantly lighter and smaller too, and a vastly wider array of play to choose from.

    I'm not the biggest fan of Pandemic but everyone else seems to think it's just fantastic. It's due to win the Spiel des Jarres in a few hours.

    Carc and Inns & Cathedrals is spot-on.

    Ingenious.

    Wits & Wagers is a lock -- not to be missed.

             Sag.


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Sagrilarus wrote:

    Agricola is going to bust your bank account. Instead, pick up Coloretto, Loot, Bang!, and Wings of War: Famous Aces for the same or less money.



He already owns Agricola.
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Jeffjones20 wrote:
Sagrilarus wrote:

    Agricola is going to bust your bank account. Instead, pick up Coloretto, Loot, Bang!, and Wings of War: Famous Aces for the same or less money.



He already owns Agricola.


    Sorry -- I read that to mean he had already decided on the first two.

             Sag.


 
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I would recommend throwing in Nexus Ops and Dominion into your collection.

Nexus Ops would give you a light combat game for when you're feeling agressive. This will appeal to those players who have fond memories of risk as a kid.

Dominion is an easy to teach, fun to play, and highly replayable game. This is one that will come out pretty often if you own it.
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Sagrilarus wrote:
Sorry -- I read that to mean he had already decided on the first two.

             Sag.




Yeah, I just realized I phrased that a bit ambiguously. Agricola definitely was a bit pricey, but after playing my first game of it last night, I'm happy that I took the plunge.
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I think Agricola's no. 1 spot may be responsible for a lot of bemusement for new gamers - "Hey, this is apparently the best game going, how can I go wrong?"

I think Stone Age is by far a better choice for an (accessible, fun & attractively produced) worker placement type game. And it's half the price, too.
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I would also recommend Dominion. Solid, quick, popular.
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My top five for starting would include:

1. Race for the Galaxy (fantastic once you get past the learning curve) or San Juan (if you want something a little easier to play and learn). I prefer RftG, but SJ is probably a better starter.
2. Dominion (easy and quick, scales well for 2-4 players)
3. Ticket to Ride: Europe (been a hit with every single person I've taught it to)
4. Carcassonne (not my favorite, but still a great entry-level game)
5. Pandemic (nice change of pace as a cooperative)

Also consider something like No Thanks as one of the best and quickest fillers out there. And don't stop there - move on to the greats like Puerto Rico, Tigris, and Power Grid (and Agricola) when you get to that point!


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Yes, if you ever play with casual gamers or non-gamers, Ticket to Ride is a must-own. I'd go with the original version, less complicated for casual gamers.
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Juomes wrote:

Race for the Galaxy or Tigris & Euphrates - lighter to medium rules with emerging deep complexity as you play
Wits & Wagers - Accessible party game that's not devoid of any strategy

RftG is fairly short to play but has a steep learning curve the first few times you play. One of my personal favorites.

T&E has depth and abstractness sort of like chess, but is better and actually not like chess in its game play. It has nonintuitive rules and is best with 3 or 4 players. It's a classic and a good choice if it sounds good to you. It is confrontational, feels more so than chess.
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A few more recommendations, for more variety:

Power Grid
Ra
RoboRally
Saint Petersburg
Hey That's my Fish
Age of Steam, Railroad Tycoon, or Steam

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OkayImagamegeek wrote:
1. Race for the Galaxy (fantastic once you get past the learning curve) or San Juan (if you want something a little easier to play and learn). I prefer RftG, but SJ is probably a better starter.


For the kind of collection it seems he's aiming for I think San Juan would be the better choice: it's much faster to teach and play, and it doesn't have the problem of the arcane iconography of RftG that seems to frustrate new players.

Settlers of Catan definitely should be in the collection. It's a great way to introduce people to the hobby, and many newbies will have already had a casual encounter with it.
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I could make suggestions, but really, your 3 additions are very strong to meet your goals. Choosing between Tigris & Euphrates vs. Race for the Galaxy, I would lean towards E&T if you have mostly chess players or wargamers in mind and RftG if you have mostly card players in mind. Both are highly regarded and popular and both support a significant number of plays.
 
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I would go with something with bidding... The Princes of Florence or Before the Wind if you want to play with 2.

Citadels has an interesting concept, but I found it too confrontational - depends on the audience.

If you want a fast to teach push your luck game for up to 8, take a look at Unnamed Object. No Thanks! is also very good.

I second the Pandemic recommendations. A coop is definitely a different flavor, one that really gave a new dimension to our collection.

If you're interested in something more abstract, perhaps something like Taluva or a GIPF game would fit the bill.

Ticket to Ride definitely works with more casual gamers, and is fun for us as well.



 
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HAHAHA...."A smaller collection"....That's what I said a year ago. Good luck keeping it small.
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So you want 5 games to start your collection.

1. Agricola - not my favorite, but you have it and that takes care of worker placement games.

2. Carcassonne - great tile placement game.

3. Snow Tails - a fun racing game, plays within an hour

4. Pandemic - great co-op. Easy to introduce to new players.

5. Medici - a nice auction game. Easy to learn, difficult to master...Knizia at his best!
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Here, get a well-rounded collection that can serve a variety of moods and crowds...

Euro-Medium: Age of Empires III: The Age of Discovery
Euro-Family: Catan
Euro-Heavy: Tigris & Euphrates
Ameritrash: Age of Conan: The Strategy Board Game
Co-op: Battlestar Galactica: The Board Game

I could think of some other categories that you should include, like 2-player and multi-player card games, 2-player and multiplayer wargames, and the like, but you asked for only five, and I think the five above would give you a great variety of high quality games.
 
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As a fairly new board gamer myself, I would NOT suggest RftG. Especially if you do not have anyone to teach you.

Catan is a must have.
Can't Stop is a good casual game.
No Thanks! had already been mentioned and is a fun casual game.
I also agree with the Dominion suggestion.
 
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trippercook wrote:
HAHAHA...."A smaller collection"....That's what I said a year ago. Good luck keeping it small.


I think I know what you mean, I've been reading this site for a week or so, and I already have a list of about 30 games I want to try/buy.

Just want to make sure I start off with a nice variation.

Based on all of your recommendations here (and other topics, hence my initial picks), I've modified my possible additions to be:

Pandemic - co-op
No Thanks - perfect filler suggestion, thanks!
Wits & Wagers - party
Race to the Galaxy - for a more complex game, but not as long as Agricola

Then either Dominion or Ticket to Ride: Europe for another full intro game.

Gonna keep refining this list as I read up on more suggestions, thanks everyone so far (Yikes...my post is already out of date since my quote, gotta keep reading!)
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Last Night on Earth: The Zombie Game belongs in every collection. Good for non-gamers and gamers alike.
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I really like just about all the games you have suggested. One thing I notice you don't suggest is a deduction game. Of all the deduction games I've played the one that I am always excited to play again is Sleuth , and the best part is it's cheap (less than 10 dollars).

Good luck, from the sounds of it you will do well no matter what you pick!
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