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Andrei Filip
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Are there any games resembling Antike? I'm fully aware of Hamburgum and Imperial so I'm not talking about the rondel series.

Here's what I love about Antike, maybe it will give you a hint what I'm looking for:
- it is very easy to teach and has low rules complexity yet rich gameplay
- it simulates some sort of conflict but it is not centered on it
- it is completely luck-free yet perfect strategies can't be made because their success ultimately depends on whether your opponents are smart enough to prevent you from executing them
- it has multiple paths towards victory
- it plays fast, or at least it gives you this impression because turns move quickly and everybody stays focused
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James Hamilton
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You could consider the other Rondel based games. Imperial is by far my favourite of the set, Antike is nice until the end game blitzkreig sets in. Hamburgum is OK but not really to my taste. The Princes of Machu Picchu can also be considered to be a sort of rondel game.

Are you looking for a conflict based game or just a no luck game? There are lots and lots of games where there is no luck beyond the seating order.
 
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Each of these games meet some of your requirements (though certainly not perfect matches):
Attila, Tempus, Vinci, Advanced Civilization, and Symbioz.

You might as well check them out.
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You might want to check out Age of Empires III: The Age of Discovery and see if it's to your liking. I think it meets most of your preferences:

- it is very easy to teach and has low rules complexity yet rich gameplay
The rules aren't that complex and are reasonably easy to teach, especially with some of the custom made player mats available to download here on BGG...

- it simulates some sort of conflict but it is not centered on it
There can be battles/war in the colonies, but the focus is more on developing your economy/resources for the strategy you pursue...

- it is completely luck-free yet perfect strategies can't be made because their success ultimately depends on whether your opponents are smart enough to prevent you from executing them
AoE3 is not completely luck-free; discovery tiles/cards are randomly selected, as well as the trade goods and buildings that are available each turn. However, luck is not overwhelming by any stretch, as winning usually depends upon how well one plays...

- it has multiple paths towards victory
Really shines here...you can score VPs in a variety of ways, including Colonization, Discovery, Trade Goods, & Capital Buildings...and you usually have to diversify somewhat and not concentrate too much in any one area...

- it plays fast, or at least it gives you this impression because turns move quickly and everybody stays focused
Game can take from 1.5 to 3 hours, depending on the # of players...as you get used to the game play, playing time will decrease. However, there's not much downtime during the turns though as you're constantly deciding where to place your Colonists/Specialists and placements usually go reasonably quick...
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I love "Antike" and like you I want a game with a bit of depth so I ordered from my favourite local store "Tikal". It seems it needs a bit more concentration on the part of the players, but it will not over-tax the little grey cells.There are decisions to be made and the strategy element is there. You need not really be interested in archaelogy to play "Tikal".
You may think that might be a different path to walk on, but read the comments and reviews of the game and you might find that this is just the game to cater for your likes.

Good luck with your choice.
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Mare Nostrum meets, I think, four out of five of those requirements, if you're looking for another ancients-themed game. Dice are used to help with combat; otherwise, it's got a lot of the comparable trappings of "Civ-lite." I've played Antike a couple times and Mare Nostrum only once, but I prefer the latter.
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otha62 wrote:
You might want to check out Age of Empires III: The Age of Discovery and see if it's to your liking. I think it meets most of your preferences:


I second this and Advanced Civilization
 
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The fact that it is a war game but with an archaeolgical theme has put a number of wargamers off, methinks.
Personally speaking, the board is so nice that it does not look like a war game, hence my reluctance to label it as a "pure" war game. That is the reason I said there is no need to have an interest in an archaeological looking game.

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jpat wrote:
Mare Nostrum meets, I think, four out of five of those requirements, if you're looking for another ancients-themed game. Dice are used to help with combat; otherwise, it's got a lot of the comparable trappings of "Civ-lite." I've played Antike a couple times and Mare Nostrum only once, but I prefer the latter.


Yeah, Mare Nostrum is what you're looking for.
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jrescan wrote:
jpat wrote:
Mare Nostrum meets, I think, four out of five of those requirements, if you're looking for another ancients-themed game. Dice are used to help with combat; otherwise, it's got a lot of the comparable trappings of "Civ-lite." I've played Antike a couple times and Mare Nostrum only once, but I prefer the latter.


Yeah, Mare Nostrum is what you're looking for.


I would recommend playing Mare Nostrum first. I love Antike, and was talked into playing Mare Nostrum because of similarities. I played a few times, and I was very disappointed with the game. It felt clunky, and requires a lot effort of the players to keep track who will win and when.

 
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Antike and Mare Nostrum are very different games. Thematically similar, but absolutely contrary in design.
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For what it's worth, I am also a huge Antike fan, and I have also sought that almost alchemical mix of depth, accessibility, and fun. I have tried all of the games suggested save Symbioz, and to be frank I don't find any of them to be very similar.
 
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I would also recommend Mare Nostrum as well, but play it with the expansion as it adds more to the game.


 
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