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Subject: The dangerous question for kiwis -- do you collect nz board games? rss

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J Holmes
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When out shopping for games or other things do you go out of your way to find nz games, or do you buy nz games based on their overall appeal (or cost)?

Is getting the biggest/best collection of nz games important to you, or do you make decisions based on BGG reviews?



 
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Brad Miller
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What exactly is a NZ game?
 
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J Holmes
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Pretty much games on this list:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/24479/page/1

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/14330
(Freemarket)

Or otherwise, games designed or produced in New Zealand.

 
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John Shortall
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We've bought some kiwi games recently but ultimately they just don't measure up to international standards in the euro style market we have today. In the old days Holdson produced some internationally acceptable family games. Some games are coming through that may change this however.Perhaps we need someone like Weta to provide decent finance and production values (see Dr Grodbort - Dark Horse comics or similar? http://www.wetanz.com/holics/index.php?catid=4).

As in the previous reply there is a great thread on New Zealand games for the uninitiated -

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/24479/item/488949#item...

Maybe Kiwi designers and would be designers should be more cooperative and collaborate more. Being so small we should share our resources. What do you think?

See:

Industry - good attempt but should have play tested more vigourously I think - http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/39746
Acquisition - ended up in the bargain bin
Linwood - http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/42380
Endeavour - coming soon

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Mark Waenink
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We've collected a few NZ games but more because of affordable used copies on trademe than meaningful intention.
 
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Andrew Rae
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I actively look out for and try to support those interested in gaming in New Zealand.

If there is a New Zealand euro game, I will buy it, but since Endeavor is about the extent of it I guess the answer is no. I don't collect games, and so I don't particularly collect NZ games. I will totally be buying that as soon as it is available.

That said I would choose an NZ game over a foreign game for the comparable experience and price. If I wanted a family game for my nieces and nephews or for my family when they grow to gaming status then Linwood would be top of my list. At $40 that is totally manageable and even if it is a little more expensive than purchasing games online from the states or getting them (if available locally), I will pay a little extra, maybe ten dollars.

A good contrast might be Pickomino versus Linwood. Pikimino is a Kinizia dice game much like his free print and play Reiner Knizia's Decathlon which you should totally download the scoring sheets for. It is just roll some dice, lock in some and roll the remainder. I have that but I only have it because I played it with someone who had brought it on line and then ordered it online. It wasn't available online or in store here. It is a good family game and I brought it for my relatives. Faced with a choice between that and Linwood I would choose Linwood because it was an NZ game.

But generally I haven't brought many NZ games because they haven't been of the type I enjoy. Take the IQideas games. Great quality and well made, but not something I will play right now. In five years time around the dinner table with the twins maybe.

Just recently there have been two gatherings of NZ designers and publishers, one in AKLD and one in WGTN. This is a good start and I believe they will bear fruit eventually. But generally for now NZ games are family games and have a tough time competing with the quality of game and production produced overseas.

I certainly wouldn't seek out a lot of the crap that has come before just because its from NZ. I will however donate you a geekgold for every different game designed or published in NZ that you purchase from this day forward. Someone ought to have a collection but it won't be me. That said I did pick up a copy of Polyconomy because of its links ot my childhood. 12 hour games of Takeover don't elicit the same positive memories

PS: I am also amped about Maori Wars that might one day be printed. I would buy that purely because it is georgeous and is based on NZ. I may only play it once, but it is attractive, historical and that is one I would buy for collection purposes. You may also note the very crude use of the name Maori for a recent Rio grande game that came out. It has islands (presumably pacific) in it, but the name is badly choosen IMO and I won't be buying it.

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Darren M
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Well I was going to purchase this one... Maori (controversial name and all) but it's now in limbo and might never be printed... and these two sound interesting to me as well....

Maori Wars: The New Zealand Land Wars, 1845-1872
Maori Wars

I suppose they don't technically all count because they aren't all produced here in New Zealand... but since they are all themed on the history of the nation I think that makes them very kiwi at heart.

Now... just to have them printed and available is what we're waiting for... surely one of them will be in print eventually?
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John Shortall
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Excellent synopsis on current trends. Thanks for the insight. I wasn't aware that game designers had got together recently. We bought Industry off the net recently, seeing the marketing and description as a good indicator - however it didn't live up to the description and after playing once with the family has ended up collecting dust. This is a real shame and I hope it is improved. I did see the Rio Grande game Maori and it looks to be completely unrelated to NZ and not altogether interesting either. So I will take NZ designed games on merit and hope Z-Man games can do Endeavour justice.

 
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Colin Hunter
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I would buy NZ games if I had the money in order to support the hobby. I doubt though I would actually play them unless they were wargames devil I would happily buy any of the titles Darren mentioned, but they are hardly New Zealand produced games.
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J Holmes
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Unfortunately Nature's Discovery went donk down in Dunedin months ago,
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so will have to make an effort to get Linwood, but it does look good.

What I dont understand about Endeavor is the name as such.
It seems to be set in Europe, and they travel and stay around Europe.
 
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Woah, this thread brings flashbacks

I think we'll see more and more interesting and quality NZ games come out, and come out on the international scene. Just will take a bit of patience as designers learn that there is a workable international market and they don't necessarily have to try and go it alone and risk all that cash.

I won't put any money on local toy/stationary shops supporting the idea though ..other than the specialists, of course!
 
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