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I'm curious as to how you fine BSG-playing folks would classify this lovely game. Is it Ameritrash? Is it a Euro?

I ask because I found myself unable to neatly pigeon-hole it when describing it. On one hand, it's got plastic miniatures and lots of chrome, sees a fair amount of dice rolling, takes hours to play, and oozes theme. (Heck, it IS a FFG after all.) On the other hand, its mechanics revolve around action selection and tight resource management, and it has no player elimination.

It's hard for me to name another game that seems so neatly to straddle the two genres.
 
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I vote Ameritrash for the reasons you listed: dice, miniatures, theme.
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BSG is one of those games that resists labels, and shows them to be un-useable at times. fwiw, after 3 years here at bgg, I'm still not sure WHAT the definitions of either Ameritrash or EuroGame are. I have a good feeling about what they are, but not the words to describe it.

So, in that sense, BSG is a lot like Risk, but with Werewolf thrown in.

Gerry.

(and now I'm off to my next hex-n-counter game: Twilight Seafarers of the Cataan Imperium "Dreadnaught for sheep?")
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Typhon wrote:
I ask because I found myself unable to neatly pigeon-hole it when describing it.


As a man who cares little for pigeon-holing, I salute BG for that.
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mostly AT, but partly euro. There's no player elimination which is predominant in AT.
 
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It's a hybrid, a pleasing mix of both Ameritrash and Euro a trend that is constantly increasing.
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ghosthack wrote:
It's a hybrid, a pleasing mix of both Ameritrash and Euro a trend that is constantly increasing.


Yep, give me your euros and we shall bling them up mad stylez!

I for one like this evolution in board games. Take the best features of Euros and ameritrash and blend them. .
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I find it to be 100% ameritrash. It's nothing without its theme and is based almost entirely in the metagame. Lack of player elimination does not make it euro.
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It's the best frakkin' game of the last 3 years, is what it is.
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BrenoK wrote:
I find it to be 100% ameritrash. It's nothing without its theme and is based almost entirely in the metagame. Lack of player elimination does not make it euro.
regut the theme and the core mechanics are still there. In such a situation, people don't have the benefit of knowing what the game was.


Let's take another case.... if Pandemic (the base game) had an opposing/traitor element to begin with, then most would say playing with a traitor is the only way to go and the game without a traitor is just some "warmup game".
 
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GerryRailBaron wrote:
fwiw, after 3 years here at bgg, I'm still not sure WHAT the definitions of either Ameritrash or EuroGame are. I have a good feeling about what they are, but not the words to describe it.

I define them by who defends or decries their existance. If Mr. Skeletor, franklincobb, or any of the previously banned members like a game, it's Ameritrash. If anyone else likes it, it's Euro.
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Sphere wrote:
Typhon wrote:
I ask because I found myself unable to neatly pigeon-hole it when describing it.


As a man who cares little for pigeon-holing, I salute BG for that.


I could stuff pigeons in holes all day!
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DCAnderson wrote:
The guy who created (Corey Koneitzka) said that he was very much inspired by German Board Games that can "boil a complex idea down to a simple elegant mechanic" (or words to that effect.

So the simple answer is that it is an American style game with Euro influences.


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GerryRailBaron wrote:
fwiw, after 3 years here at bgg, I'm still not sure WHAT the definitions of either Ameritrash or EuroGame are. I have a good feeling about what they are, but not the words to describe it.

I define them by who defends or decries their existance. If Mr. Skeletor, franklincobb, or any of the previously banned members like a game, it's Ameritrash. If anyone else likes it, it's Euro.
They got banned? I wonder what happened there? Without them around, who will define Ameritrash games? laugh
 
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ackmondual wrote:
ColtsFan76 wrote:
GerryRailBaron wrote:
fwiw, after 3 years here at bgg, I'm still not sure WHAT the definitions of either Ameritrash or EuroGame are. I have a good feeling about what they are, but not the words to describe it.

I define them by who defends or decries their existance. If Mr. Skeletor, franklincobb, or any of the previously banned members like a game, it's Ameritrash. If anyone else likes it, it's Euro.
They got banned? I wonder what happened there? Without them around, who will define Ameritrash games? laugh

I am not sure about franklincobb but MrSkeletor has a running tally of the number of times he has been banned. But I was actually referring to Him-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named as "previously banned members."
 
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It has one classification: Awesome
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Why must everything be labeled?
 
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Why must everything be labeled?
I think it's important to distinguish games like Apples To Apples as party games, Candyland as kids games, Monopoly as "god awful", and BSG as a semi-co-op game for one. For some folks, all of these categories may as well blend in with each other seemlessly. For others, labeling them is an important way to tell us just what a game is from the proverbial 50,000 ft view.
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100% Delicious Ameritrash!
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ColtsFan76 wrote:
ackmondual wrote:
ColtsFan76 wrote:
GerryRailBaron wrote:
fwiw, after 3 years here at bgg, I'm still not sure WHAT the definitions of either Ameritrash or EuroGame are. I have a good feeling about what they are, but not the words to describe it.

I define them by who defends or decries their existance. If Mr. Skeletor, franklincobb, or any of the previously banned members like a game, it's Ameritrash. If anyone else likes it, it's Euro.
They got banned? I wonder what happened there? Without them around, who will define Ameritrash games? laugh

I am not sure about franklincobb but MrSkeletor has a running tally of the number of times he has been banned. But I was actually referring to Him-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named as "previously banned members."


Voldemolt?... er... damn.
 
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ColtsFan76 wrote:
ackmondual wrote:
ColtsFan76 wrote:
GerryRailBaron wrote:
fwiw, after 3 years here at bgg, I'm still not sure WHAT the definitions of either Ameritrash or EuroGame are. I have a good feeling about what they are, but not the words to describe it.

I define them by who defends or decries their existance. If Mr. Skeletor, franklincobb, or any of the previously banned members like a game, it's Ameritrash. If anyone else likes it, it's Euro.
They got banned? I wonder what happened there? Without them around, who will define Ameritrash games? laugh

I am not sure about franklincobb but MrSkeletor has a running tally of the number of times he has been banned. But I was actually referring to Him-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named as "previously banned members."


Voldemolt?... er... damn.
Or perhaps M. Night Shamalan's The Village
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