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Rooster Robinson
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the other night My buddy and I tied for most VPs. Who wins?
anyone have any tie breaker ideas? the rules didn't say what happens in case of a tie.

Just wondering what peeps thought.

~VONROO
 
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I don't recall, but if we had to come up with something maybe most in your court for tiebreaker?
 
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The official rules don't have a tie-breaker - it's a shared victory.

I was in a tournament once where we needed a tie-breaker, and the director used highest card left in your hand. If tied, second highest, and so on. Seemed fair to me.
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The rules don't specify, so I'd just call it a tie.

Ideas you might want to consider if you absolutely must have a tie breaker:

Most cubes in the court
Most cubes on the board
Least cubes on the board
Most cubes in the provinces
Highest valued bid card in your hand
Possesion of an unused veto card
Most regions with first place
Most cubes in the King's region
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    "In the event of a tie, the player that takes the king from the board first shall be declared the winner."

             Sag.


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Guess its a tie then.
We counted up our Cabs. and I had one more on the board than he did.
I still had my 13 card as well. perhaps that will be enough to settle the dispute. thanks everyone.

Roo
 
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Robb Effinger
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WBC uses the following tiebrakers, which I find to make a lot of sense

1) Total number of unused Cabs (If you scored well with less guys on the board, you did better)
2) Cards left in hand (higher is better)

And I believe that next year we're going to count cabs in court as better than cabs in provinces (with cards in hand as the third tiebreaker)
 
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Rob Flowers

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Yeah, I'm thinking of changing the first one to just "cabs in court", or even possibly eliminating the first one altogether.
 
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I agree it's necessary to have some kind of tie breaker system in place for most games - especially where ties are more likely to occur or for tournament play.

It seems unfair to give preference for the efficient player that "coasts along" bringing less cubes to the board. He could have just been fortunate to not have as much direct conflict. Players who were forced to bring more caballeros to the board had to work a lot HARDER, and deserve to not be forgotten!

I really like the idea doing a showdown with the remaining power cards. At the same token, I imagine there is a close relationship between cubes on the board vs. the types of cards played:

- Lower power card = more cabs to court, but less cabs on board!
- Higher power card = less cabs to court, but more cabs on board!

Likewise, the types of power cards played also relate to the power cards left in hand! Weighing all of these options, I wanted to ask everyone's opinion on this idea:

TIE BREAKER #1 = Play lowest power card and add caballeros from province to your court (as normal). The player with the highest TOTAL cubes in their court wins!

This system takes 2 elements into consideration: The amount of reserve already prepped in their court plus the potential of a subsequent turn.

TIE BREAKER #2 = Any remaining tied players look upon the board to where the King is currently standing. The player who has the MAJORITY of caballeros in this region wins the game!

At this point, if there is not a clear winner any remaining tied players DESERVE to share & rejoice their victories!

 
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