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jim maher
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Firstly apologies if this question has already been asked/answered in the forum. I would be particularly grateful for the views of wargamers who rate (as I do ) the GCACW SERIES as the best operational level series covering The American Civil War.I am looking for a similar series to cover the Napoleonic Wars and am just wondering is there anything remotely as good as GCACW out there for that era.So far it looks like the Vae Victis series of game might come someway towards it but the reality may be that there is nothing as good - what do you think?

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Seth Owen
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I have my doubts as to whether the "operational" level is well suited to Napoleonic-era campaigning. While operational maneuvers did sometimes have dramatic effect (Ulm, Leipzig and the Hundred Days come to mind) most of the real action was on the battlefield level

That said, there was Zucker's Napoleonic system which did try to cover that level of campaigning, if yu are interested. Some of the game include Arcola: The Battle for Italy, 1796, Hundred Days Battles and Napoleon at Leipzig.
 
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Napoleon at Leipzig is a game on the battle, not a part of the Campaigns of Napoleon system. It is more similar to the Napoleon's Last Battles quad game. Battle for Italy and Hundred Days Battles are both small, pocket games put out by AH 30 years ago. More (and some more recent) games in the series are:
Napoleon at Bay (1814 France)
The Struggle of Nations (1813 Germany)
1809 (The 1809 Austrian Campaign)
The Emperor Returns(Waterloo Campaign 1815)
Bonaparte in Italy (1796 Italian campaign)
The Eagles Turn East (Poland 1807)
The Sun of Austerlitz (Austria 1805)

At slightly different scales:
Highway to the Kremlin (5X, Russia 1812)
Napoleon at the Crossroads (2X, Germany 1813)
The Habit of Victory (2X, Poland 1807)




 
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At some risk because I am hardly a scholar of the period, I have to disagree 180 degrees with Seth's doubts I am afraid. One of the major things I took away from David Chandler's "Campaigns of Napoleon", and similar reading, was the manner in which campaign operations and supporting elements on the march were used to create possibilities on the battlefield.

But I do think his recommendation of the Zucker games is spot on. There are sooooo many, and the scales vary slightly.

But these are excellent resources:
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/21994
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/21997
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/21998
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/22049
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/22050

Adjust for scale depending on the size and nature of the campaign, and the the combination of the above I believe does suit, or exceed, the mantle of "Napoleonic GCACW".
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I have JENA! - it seems close in scale and scope, as does The Habit of Victory.

I need to find some folks to play these with!!!!
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jim maher
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Thanks guys for your comments so far. Perhaps my question would be better framed by asking what Napoleonic Era series gives you the same ( or close to ) degree of gaming satisfaction(lets call it that)as GCACW. Having said that Zucker seems to be a strong recommendation which is helful as I had recently put Leipzig it on my wish list.

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Visit us in Ireland Bill!
 
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Thanks John for the links. With a surname Murphy you have to be Irish or from Irish stock (even without knowing your geek name!)

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