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http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2009/07/15/chairman-of...

I noticed this a couple of months ago as probaly many of you probaly did. I'd write $30 instead of $15 though. There's no mention of BGG or euros/wargames but I'm certain the same concept applies that many families don't want to spend alot to go out to eat and watch a movie at the theater.
 
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recession?
what recession?
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I don't get why Hasbro doesn't want to get in the market of producing Euros or specialty games. Maybe it is too small time for them. Maybe producing 3000 games is not a wise investment when they can produce 100,000 of a game and sell them in Walmarts and Targets across the country. I guess I can see that. But it seems they'd have the resources already in place to do what RGG or Mayfair or Z-Man is doing and make a little profit and build their name. AT LEAST, re-print some of those older OOP games. Have they seen the price SW: Queen's Gambit is fetching?

I think people (the general public) are ready to take the step from Monopoly and Clue into some better games but when you go to Walmart and browse the board game aisle, you don't have ANY options for something smarter or different.
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Well keep in mind that Hasbro is WOTC. Magic sales and tournaments have been gaining as well (there is a lot of money cards in the next set released on Friday)!

We have been exposing non-gamers to games a lot more frequently, as small diner parties and such are a nice substitution to going out to a movie and diner and paying five times as much.
 
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kendahlj wrote:
But it seems they'd have the resources already in place to do what RGG or Mayfair or Z-Man is doing and make a little profit and build their name.
Not sure I would agree. But I could see the infrastructure to sell outside of the big box stores vastly different than hitting the more niche markets and stores. Why add risk to their business for what appears to be a small payoff?

kendahlj wrote:
I think people (the general public) are ready to take the step from Monopoly and Clue into some better games but when you go to Walmart and browse the board game aisle, you don't have ANY options for something smarter or different.
Your belief in the American populous far exceed mine.

My parents played bridge in college. The kids now play Poker...or Euchre. The notion of learning bridge is foreign and almost laughable. At best you will be able to bleed into the market with fast play abstracts like ingenious and, of course, Blokus...but a serious Euro with a theme? No chance IMO...unfortunately.
 
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Yeah with rare exceptions, most board games are lucky to sell 2,000 copies and even when they sell 10,000 to Hasbro that is just peanuts. Remember it is corporate America. If they don't think they can sell 500,000 units plus constantly they are not usually interested.

This is why I dislike big corporations....because they really can't risk being innovative or they sink like the Titanic. They have to stick to the proven basics. Not saying anyone liked it but the Aztek is an example of a company trying something new and it absolutely made Pontiac loose their shirt.

If nothing else the recession will make most big corporations go into a shell and not risk anything.
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Re-release Small World as "Risk: But Better"

I could see Small World taking off.
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kendahlj wrote:
I think people (the general public) are ready to take the step from Monopoly and Clue into some better games but when you go to Walmart and browse the board game aisle, you don't have ANY options for something smarter or different.


I don't think most people ARE ready for these games. Remember, gamers in general are a more educated, better read lot of people over the Average American. And most gamers aren't ready for wargames.

Joe Six-Pack doesn't want to strain himself thinking when he's playing a game.
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J.L.Robert wrote:
kendahlj wrote:
I think people (the general public) are ready to take the step from Monopoly and Clue into some better games but when you go to Walmart and browse the board game aisle, you don't have ANY options for something smarter or different.


I don't think most people ARE ready for these games. Remember, gamers in general are a more educated, better read lot of people over the Average American. And most gamers aren't ready for wargames.

Joe Six-Pack doesn't want to strain himself thinking when he's playing a game.



Ahhh Joe Six-Pack, great fella that one.
 
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