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Went to see HP 6 on Wednesday, second showing at 10am.

The movie, while a visual treat, was vastly missing crucial pieces of information. Whilst I can understand that not every aspect of a book can be translated into a movie, the entire premise of the "half-blood prince" was left out.

In the book, Harry learned some of Snape's past by using the Dumbledore's Pensive. It turns out that during their own years at Hogwarts, Snape was in love with Lilly (Harry's mother), and was tortured mercilessly by Harry's father. The reader gains an understand from this why Snape hates Harry so much, and also why Snape called himself "Half-Blood Prince" - his shame of being half muggle-born.

The movie viewer only gains a slight peek at this fact when, as an afterthought, Snape mentions "Oh, you've been using my book".

I was very disappointed in this omission. The plot of Book 7 is completely wrapped Snape's past, and the reader understands the motivation behind Snape's actions in that final book. So I have no idea how much of a mess the 7th movie is going to be. I might skip the 7th movie altogether and wait for it on DVD.
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I agree: Having the titular Prince revealed in one throwaway line was crazy.

The worst thing about the movie was that it was boring. "Oh good. Another scene with the magical cabinet. Are you going to show me again what it does? Because I just didn't get it the first two times you showed me."

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They went for the funny, coming-of-age story. I missed the meatier parts of the book about Snape's past and the ever-worsening relationship between Harry and Snape. It was enjoyable, but the worst of the six movies.
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Worst part is for the 7th book they're going to split it into 2 movies. It's time to wrap this baby up.
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davestephens wrote:
Worst part is for the 7th book they're going to split it into 2 movies. It's time to wrap this baby up.
Agreed, shoot 'em both at once and get it over with already.
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cold_fuzion wrote:
shoot 'em both at once and get it over with already.


You mean Dan Radcliffe and Rupert Grint?
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Geosphere wrote:
cold_fuzion wrote:
shoot 'em both at once and get it over with already.


You mean Dan Radcliffe and Rupert Grint?
Radcliffe, I think Grint could be good in slapstick comedy.
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Ludocrazy wrote:
They went for the funny, coming-of-age story. I missed the meatier parts of the book about Snape's past and the ever-worsening relationship between Harry and Snape. It was enjoyable, but the worst of the six movies.

Which is a shame because it is my favorite of the books.

cold_fuzion wrote:
davestephens wrote:
Worst part is for the 7th book they're going to split it into 2 movies. It's time to wrap this baby up.
Agreed, shoot 'em both at once and get it over with already.

That is what they are doing but they're splitting the release so we don't miss out on any of the exciting camping scenes.
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Ludocrazy wrote:
They went for the funny, coming-of-age story. I missed the meatier parts of the book about Snape's past and the ever-worsening relationship between Harry and Snape. It was enjoyable, but the worst of the six movies.

Which is a shame because it is my favorite of the books.

cold_fuzion wrote:
davestephens wrote:
Worst part is for the 7th book they're going to split it into 2 movies. It's time to wrap this baby up.
Agreed, shoot 'em both at once and get it over with already.

That is what they are doing but they're splitting the release so we don't miss out on any of the exciting camping scenes.
Well you've GOT to have the 300 pages of camping. That's where all the action and plot development happened... oh wait... no it didn't...
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I couldn't believe they were splitting the last book into two parts. That book is the one that could most easily be edited down to fit in one movie!!

I haven't seen any of the movies yet, however. I love the books too much.
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Which book had the multiple visits to the old town with Dumbledore taking Harry and showing him the graveyard. Wasn't that book 6? If so, that was omitted as well!
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It wasn't a bad movie; it was a bad movie in relation to the source material. HBP is also my favorite book of the series and they gutted the history and character development of Voldemort and Snape, respectively. How hard would it have been to add an extra 10-15 minutes? Half the fun of the book was thinking that the HBP was Riddle, before discovering it was Snape at the end.

Also, while it was a funny movie this is one of the worst years ever at Hogwarts; everyone is paranoid and parents are taking their kids out left and right. Dumbledore isn't the trustworthy, shining headmaster in the eyes of the wizarding community anymore and muggles are dying. Instead of trying to portray this, the filmmakers decided it would be better to make everything a slapstick comedy about young love. WTF? Yeah it's in the book but that's not the only thing that's in the book.

I think this movie is characterized most by its missed opportunities. Even what they did show wasn't fleshed out: Harry's relation with the potions book didn't make a whole lot of sense, you never see any fallout from his duel with Malfoy and the cave could have used just a bit more exposition. Never explained Inferi or the bezoar either. And considering the horrendous execution the bridge scene should have been left out (just have them kidnap Olivander).

One more thing: Snape has waited years to become the Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher and we don't even get ONE SCENE of his class. Lame.
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Watched HBP last night and I felt it was much lighter in tone than I expected. I did enjoy it but would have preferred it to be darker, with more background on Snape, Riddle and the horcruxes. There is a lot of background info missing which is key to Harry figuring out the horcruxes.

The bridge attack was silly and there seemed to be no real point to the attack on the Burrow either. I would rather have seen a more chaotic, emotional fight in Hogwarts as the Deatheaters escaped post-Dumbledore.

Definitely a fun watch but not what I was expecting.
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We went to see it last night. I thought it was good, but not great.

They made some...interesting...choices with what they kept in and left out. They tore through some of the plot and spent too much time on other things. It seemed like all the interesting stuff that didn't have to do with The Big Three was chopped out. Because of this, a lot of the plot elements didn't make sense any more ("we went into all this effort to sneak into Hogwarts just to watch you kill Dumbledore" "by the way, I am the Half Blood Prince!")

I was also disappointed in that the movie version makes it look pretty obvious that Snape is a good guy -- I seem to remember it being a lot more ambiguous until late in book seven.

It will be interesting to see what deleted scenes are on the DVD. I'm curious to see if they bothered with some of the peripheral stuff and cut for time or if they decided early on to leave it out.
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edosan wrote:

I was also disappointed in that the movie version makes it look pretty obvious that Snape is a good guy -- I seem to remember it being a lot more ambiguous until late in book seven.


I remember that as the huge discussion point while we were waiting for book 7 to come out: Was that really Snape who killed Dumbledore, or someone who had been polymorphed to look like Snape? If so, was Dumbledore really dead? I argued that Yes, it was Snape, and Yes, Dumbledore was really dead. His portrait wouldn't have appeared in the headmaster's office if he wasn't, so it must be real. So, why would Snape have used the A-K curse on Dumbledore, and why did Dumbledore seem to plead for it? Dumbledore always said he trusted Snape implicitly, so we were supposed to do the same, but man, that last scene on top of the tower sure made him look like a minion of evil.

Man, I thought our brains would fry thinking about all the possibilities while we waited for book 7.


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It will be interesting to see what deleted scenes are on the DVD. I'm curious to see if they bothered with some of the peripheral stuff and cut for time or if they decided early on to leave it out.


I'm hoping Warner offers an extended version for DVD. Watching the extended versions of the LotR movies on DVD was almost like watching completely different films, especially for the Fellowship -- so much that was left out of the theatrical release was put back in and the movie made so much more sense, even for someone like me who is really familiar with the book.
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