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I've got my first five player game of BSG scheduled for Sunday, but I have one concern. The "You are not a cylon cards" have very little text while the "You are a cylon" cards have a lot. Whoever is reading their card the longest is a cylon.

How have others handled this? Have everyone memorise the cards?
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David Knepper
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Usually, we just set a designated time span that everyone stares at their loyalty card.
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As other said here - I told everyone to look at their cards for 30 seconds no matter what it said.
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I've taken to (especially with new players present) actually sending people scattered into different rooms, out in the hallway, etc. Everyone reads their card for a good 10-20 seconds, composes themselves if necessary, thinks about strategy for a moment, and doesn't have to worry about anyone else trying to read their reaction.
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We just went through the four cylon cards at the start of the game, while explaining the rules.
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I pass out the loyalty cards and everyone looks at them on the count of three. Anyone who is still looking at their cards 5 seconds later gets marched to the airlock.

P.S. Humans almost always win.
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agentzen wrote:
I've taken to (especially with new players present) actually sending people scattered into different rooms, out in the hallway, etc. Everyone reads their card for a good 10-20 seconds, composes themselves if necessary, thinks about strategy for a moment, and doesn't have to worry about anyone else trying to read their reaction.


Good idea... Especially because sneaky players like me sneak looks at the rest of the table while I am supposed to be reading.
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Recently we had a new player and she ended up as the Cylon. I felt bad because it was obvious that she was reading so long, so I started staring at my card to maybe get everyone else to second guess themselves.
Turns out, I was pegged as the Cylon and kept in the brig for a lot of the game. We humans lost.
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JackBeckman wrote:
As other said here - I told everyone to look at their cards for 30 seconds no matter what it said.


Same here.... most times 30 seconds is plenty time to read the cards. A lot of times after giving ample time for everyone to "read" someone usually just asks if everyone is done reading.

I've played enough times to know which cylon cards do what upon revealing, but I used to not read them until I can discretely take my time reading while everyone else is distracted by a skill check or whatnot. I think my friends have gotten used to the fact that I take a couple looks at my loyalty card throughout the game [i encourage everyone to remind themselves to do so]. At the very least it makes everyone keep their edge.
 
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We use the 30 second rule too (or pick your own time but at least 10 is probably good especially for a newbie)
 
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I'd just send people around with their cards as well, just have them take their character card too. If they keep the loyalty card on top of the character card text, you can't see if they're reading the character or the loyalty card. Or just drooling over Starbuck's picture.
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I considered this but was worried that you'd notice whether eyes or moving or not, even if you were trying not to.

I like the idea of handing cards out with characters, that seems a good way to keep things moving.
 
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In the end I got everyone to turn around to read their card for a fixed period of twenty seconds.

Cylons won
 
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After running into this issue in our first play last night, my suggestion was to pass the Cylon and Sympathizer cards around in advance allowing each person to read them and ask questions as a group.
 
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I explain the rules for clyons with new players, then explain the 'trap' that people can fall into here by card manipulation (like someone putting it down late etc).

So everyone knows what the tell I am trying to avoid is. Then we do a 'stare fixedly for 20 seconds' while I count aloud (which prevents people from butting in). In the second game I cut it to 15 seconds, and then I cut it to 10. When it's the 'regulars' play we do 5-10 seconds depending on how tired we are.
 
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we made a point of setting out all the loyatly cards so EVERYONE can read ALL OF THEM.
then once all the newbies have an idea of what the cards do and have asked any quesitons, we deal out the cards, with the 30 second stare rule.
 
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