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Hey, does anyone know of any, in print, tactical level Vietnam war games?
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Silver Bayonet: The First Team in Vietnam, 1965 ... never played it (possibly as a PC remake?), but ponder it whenever I see it. (Sorry...its company level)
 
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I'm not sure if Lock 'n Load: Forgotten Heroes – Vietnam is still in print, but it can be found on ebay:-








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elirlandes wrote:
I'm not sure if Lock 'n Load: Forgotten Heroes – Vietnam is still in print, but it can be found on ebay:-



A second edition is on P500 right now

http://www.locknloadgame.com/Section_Cat_Content_Detail.asp?...
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You're in luck! There is an entire geeklist on the subject:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/7688/

Several, but not all games on the list, are squad level.

Happy hunting!

- as/jz
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While a Lock 'n Load: Forgotten Heroes reprint is on preorder, it is available immediately as a print-and-play for a pretty reasonable price, if you're into all that printing & gluing & cutting & stuff.

How about Firepower? Scenarios usually pit a single squad vs. another with counters for individual soldiers. Long out of print but easy to obtain.
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Riccardo Perni wrote:
elirlandes wrote:
I'm not sure if Lock 'n Load: Forgotten Heroes – Vietnam is still in print, but it can be found on ebay:-



A second edition is on P500 right now

http://www.locknloadgame.com/Section_Cat_Content_Detail.asp?...


I'd recommend L'n'L, too, especially since I've already pre-ordered the 2nd edition...the more orders, the sooner the reprint!
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There is a rumoured (hehe) Combat Commander: Vietnam in the works...
 
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And then there's Fields of Fire. Solitaire card game; includes WWII, Korea, and Vietnam engagements.
 
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It's a pity that you're restricting yourself to in-print games. It can't be that hard to find a copy of Grunt or its remake Search & Destroy. They provide a brilliant take on the problems of that conflict that I don't believe has been surpassed by later efforts.
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cptwacky wrote:
Silver Bayonet: The First Team in Vietnam, 1965 ... never played it (possibly as a PC remake?), but ponder it whenever I see it. (Sorry...its company level)


Thanks for the replies everyone. I don't mind company level.
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elirlandes wrote:
I'm not sure if Lock 'n Load: Forgotten Heroes – Vietnam is still in print, but it can be found on ebay:-










I'll definitely get this when it's reprinted.
Does anyone know how this compares to ASL?
 
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Sphere wrote:
It's a pity that you're restricting yourself to in-print games. It can't be that hard to find a copy of Grunt or its remake Search & Destroy. They provide a brilliant take on the problems of that conflict that I don't believe has been surpassed by later efforts.


I'm not really restricting myself to in-print games its just I've haven't used ebay before and I usually placed orders through a nearby Game store......and I'm really lazy
 
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Patrick what about Fields of Fire? I bought it some time ago but not yet opened...I've got me hands quite full with ASL but, as I'm big time into solitaire gaming, I'm curious about this one...
 
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Smurfy6 wrote:
elirlandes wrote:
I'm not sure if Lock 'n Load: Forgotten Heroes – Vietnam is still in print, but it can be found on ebay:-










I'll definitely get this when it's reprinted.
Does anyone know how this compares to ASL?


Hi,
I'm new to board wargaming and I bought 2 LnL games (WW2, not vietnam, but I assume the gameplay is similar), ATS, and ASLSK (not fullblown ASL). Of the three systems I prefer ASLSK > ATS > LnL. LnL has the nicest components and easy rules, but I found the system a bit light for my taste. of course, imho, ymmv.
IIBC, you can go to the LnL website and print and play a demo?
good luck!
 
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Quote:
I'm new to board wargaming and I bought 2 LnL games (WW2, not vietnam, but I assume the gameplay is similar), ATS, and ASLSK (not fullblown ASL). Of the three systems I prefer ASLSK > ATS > LnL. LnL has the nicest components and easy rules, but I found the system a bit light for my taste. of course, imho, ymmv.
IIBC, you can go to the LnL website and print and play a demo?
good luck!


I have played Forgotten Heroes. It plays very similar to the original Squad Leader game (not ASL). I prefer it over SL, though. I'm not a huge fan of CRT's and LnL has found a way to conduct combat without them.
 
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Smurfy6 wrote:

I'll definitely get this when it's reprinted.
Does anyone know how this compares to ASL?


As others have pointed out, you can try Lock 'n Load: Forgotten Heroes – Vietnam yourself for free, just by visiting the download site.

I've played ASL and a couple of the LnL demos. How do they compare? Well, LnL is a much lighter game, for one thing--easier to get into, faster and smoother to play. But ASL is "meatier"--it simulates stuff in richer, more complex detail. Other than that, the two games have a very similar feel. They're on the same scale, and they engage your imagination on the nitty-gritty tactical level of modern warfare. Both games are full of surprises too; the unexpected can happen, and it often does.

LnL, being a newer game, has a more modern feel to it: impulse movement, minimal charts, event cards. ASL is more turn-based, has lots of chart checking, and no event cards.

I sold ASL years ago, as I decided it was more than I wanted to deal with. I have yet to buy a full LnL game, but I keep being drawn back to the demos; and one of these days I'll probably break down and make a real purchase.

One thing about LnL that some people like and others dislike is the Spotting rule. Even if you can see enemy units on the map, your units usually can't fire at them unless they pass a spotting roll.

Since you originally asked about Vietnam games, though, I think only LnL covers that war. ASL is all about WWII.
 
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patgarret77 wrote:
Patrick what about Fields of Fire? I bought it some time ago but not yet opened...I've got me hands quite full with ASL but, as I'm big time into solitaire gaming, I'm curious about this one...


Wish I could help, but I haven't bought it (yet). I hear it's very difficult to learn but can be very good and rewarding once you learn it.
 
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